Extensions for non-XP VMs in Win7
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From: Bo Berglund on 8 Feb 2010 15:12 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:10:09 +0100, "senn" <senn(a)homeplace&.fix> wrote: >Glad to hear this. But there's no clipboard function in my instalation >of XP-mode having the Integration coupled in. My install may not yet >be accomplished. In fact, in my situation windows XP-mode was intended >to be loaded with win98, as this is the most suitable operating system for >the Autocad 14 application. 14 was build for 98 I think. >If no clipboard there. Then Windows XP-mode does not fulfil its purpose. Microsoft did not give out XP-mode for free in order to cover Win98 usage. It was strictly done in order not to orphan the customer usage of XP apps that were not going to run on Win7.... -- Bo Berglund (Sweden)
From: David Wilkinson on 8 Feb 2010 16:05 Bo Berglund wrote: > Does XP-mode really come for free even if not used in WVPC? > I thought that it was free in order to enable Win7 users who have apps > tha won't run on Win7 to still use them by running then in XP-mode. > Instead of fixing up Win7 to run these apps Microsoft offered a free > XP-bubble to run them in. > > But is it really legal to download that XP virtual machine and then > run it inside VMWare Workstation7 or Player3?? Bo: The VM has to be specially designed according to some Microsoft specification in order for the XP-Mode image to run in it. Workstation 7 and Reader 3 have this feature, and even have a special item on the File Menu for importing the XP-mode image. I sure hope it's legal, because I'm doing it. I don't think Microsoft would have made the requirements public if it was not be legal to do it. -- David Wilkinson Visual C++ MVP
From: senn on 8 Feb 2010 16:56 "Bo Berglund" <boberglund(a)myotherhome.sec> skrev i meddelelsen news:str0n5tnaqjspfunflercc88dp2502hlfo(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:10:09 +0100, "senn" <senn(a)homeplace&.fix> wrote: > >>Glad to hear this. But there's no clipboard function in my instalation >>of XP-mode having the Integration coupled in. My install may not yet >>be accomplished. In fact, in my situation windows XP-mode was intended >>to be loaded with win98, as this is the most suitable operating system for >>the Autocad 14 application. 14 was build for 98 I think. >>If no clipboard there. Then Windows XP-mode does not fulfil its purpose. > > Microsoft did not give out XP-mode for free in order to cover Win98 > usage. It was strictly done in order not to orphan the customer usage > of XP apps that were not going to run on Win7.... > > -- > > Bo Berglund (Sweden) That's only one way to look at it. Enthough the name xp-mode hesitate something, XP-mode does not imply that older programs formerly be running solely on an XP-machine. With XP and SP2 and SP3 many older programs does not run fully without bugs. Autocad 14 is one of these. My comprehention is: Microsoft delivered the free license XP-mode solely for strengthening the sales revenue of Windows 7. If they cared for the problems their customers had by the lack of running older programs on Vista since it came out, for other reasons than sales attractions, they would had build XP-mode into Vista for years back. Or simply, just made both Vista and Windows 7 compatible from the start of. In all this time - since Vista came out - ms leaved people alone with their compatibillity problems. It's too much holding a hand over them. The charity given to the countries of poority is paid by their customers. That's why the sales must go on faster and faster. /senn
From: Bo Berglund on 8 Feb 2010 17:23 On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:05:51 -0500, David Wilkinson <no-reply(a)effisols.com> wrote: >Bo Berglund wrote: >> Does XP-mode really come for free even if not used in WVPC? >> I thought that it was free in order to enable Win7 users who have apps >> tha won't run on Win7 to still use them by running then in XP-mode. >> Instead of fixing up Win7 to run these apps Microsoft offered a free >> XP-bubble to run them in. >> >> But is it really legal to download that XP virtual machine and then >> run it inside VMWare Workstation7 or Player3?? > >Bo: > >The VM has to be specially designed according to some Microsoft specification in >order for the XP-Mode image to run in it. Workstation 7 and Reader 3 have this >feature, and even have a special item on the File Menu for importing the XP-mode >image. I cannot find anything like that on my WS7 File menu. All I see is: File/Import or Export/ this opens a wizard. Next-Next: Select type of source: Nothing here indicates Win7 XP mode only Physical Computer, VMWare virtual machine, Virtual� Appliance and Other is selectable. Go for Other + Next: Now I have to browse for a "source VM or image" and there is no selection for XPmode.... >I sure hope it's legal, because I'm doing it. I don't think Microsoft would have >made the requirements public if it was not be legal to do it. I tried downloading XP mode and then using WinZip to extract the files inside the exe. It turned out that there was a big file with no extensio, which I thought was the XPMode VHD, so I added the vhd extension and tried peeping into it with WinImage. But it was not recognized. How do you mean that one can open/import it with VMWare? I have WorkStation 7.0.1 (latest update applied a week ago) on my XP-Pro SP3 PC.... -- Bo Berglund (Sweden)
From: David Wilkinson on 8 Feb 2010 20:26
Bo Berglund wrote: > I cannot find anything like that on my WS7 File menu. All I see is: > File/Import or Export/ this opens a wizard. > Next-Next: Select type of source: Nothing here indicates Win7 XP mode > only Physical Computer, VMWare virtual machine, Virtual� Appliance and > Other is selectable. Go for Other + Next: > Now I have to browse for a "source VM or image" and there is no > selection for XPmode.... > >> I sure hope it's legal, because I'm doing it. I don't think Microsoft would have >> made the requirements public if it was not be legal to do it. > > I tried downloading XP mode and then using WinZip to extract the files > inside the exe. It turned out that there was a big file with no > extensio, which I thought was the XPMode VHD, so I added the vhd > extension and tried peeping into it with WinImage. But it was not > recognized. > > How do you mean that one can open/import it with VMWare? I have > WorkStation 7.0.1 (latest update applied a week ago) on my XP-Pro SP3 The host has to be running Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, or Ultimate in order for this to work. Using VMWare only allows you to do things that you could have done with WVPC, except that you do not need hardware virtualization. You first have to *install* the XP Virtual Machine. It shows up as "Windows XP Mode" in the Windows 7 list of installed programs (Programs and Features). Only after you have done this does the "Import Windows XP Mode VM" item appear on the Workstation File menu. You have to install the XP Mode before you open Workstation, or Workstation will not realize it is there. -- David Wilkinson Visual C++ MVP |