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From: Michael A. Terrell on 23 Mar 2010 20:39 D Yuniskis wrote: > > Hi Joerg, > > Joerg wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> BTW, some canned goods were found in 'Old West' ghost towns that were > >> about 100 years old. Other than loss of flavor, they were supposed to > >> still be safe to eat. > > > > We had some stuff like that in the army. As for flavor, that was rather > > debatable even when "fresh" :-) > > <grin> As a kid, I spent a few months living on C-rations (research). > It's hard to imagine doing that for a prolonged period. Even the > "chocolate" was abysmal! > > I am surprised, though, that things *can* stay preserved, canned, > for such a long period of time. I imagine it depends on the > foodstuffs involved, the materials from which the cans are made, > any *coatings* applied to the insides of the cans and the > mechanical integrity of those cans. > > I would imagine vacuum packing something like beans in glass > (or metal) would also have a very long shelf life -- but I'm > not a big fan of legumes! :-( Glass is excellent for canning, till the rubber seal rots. -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
From: Joel Koltner on 23 Mar 2010 21:15 Say Michael, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:4BA95EC8.FB7C8EE3(a)earthlink.net... > Some of the ones I got while in the Army were over 20 years old. When > its -20 to -30 degrees and the only food for 15 miles, you don't > complain, if you want your next meal. Where were you stationed, if you don't mind my asking? ---Joel
From: D Yuniskis on 23 Mar 2010 21:52 Charlie E. wrote: > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:55:47 -0700, D Yuniskis > <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote: > >> Hi Joerg, >> >> Joerg wrote: >>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>> BTW, some canned goods were found in 'Old West' ghost towns that were >>>> about 100 years old. Other than loss of flavor, they were supposed to >>>> still be safe to eat. >>> We had some stuff like that in the army. As for flavor, that was rather >>> debatable even when "fresh" :-) >> <grin> As a kid, I spent a few months living on C-rations (research). >> It's hard to imagine doing that for a prolonged period. Even the >> "chocolate" was abysmal! >> >> I am surprised, though, that things *can* stay preserved, canned, >> for such a long period of time. I imagine it depends on the >> foodstuffs involved, the materials from which the cans are made, >> any *coatings* applied to the insides of the cans and the >> mechanical integrity of those cans. >> >> I would imagine vacuum packing something like beans in glass >> (or metal) would also have a very long shelf life -- but I'm >> not a big fan of legumes! :-( > > I had a similiar experience. Visiting a friend, I noticed a bunch of > boxes of C-rations sitting in the garage. Asked about them, and found > they were expired rations from a fallout shelter. I asked if I could > have some, and soon found myself in possession of about six cases of > them. Over the next few months, tried them out, and found which were Ah, I wasn't as lucky. That's *all* I had to eat! :-/ (though I could have "as much as I wanted" -- small consolation that! :> ) > tolerable, and which were really, really bad! A couple of years I think the franks and beans were tolerable (and I *hate* beans -- so that tells you how bad I considered most of it!). The pasta (?) defied description. :< The little "fruit cakes" doubled as hockey pucks :-/ > later, at ROTC summer camp, when we were issued C-rations, I knew > which ones to get, and which ones to trade... ;-) Ones to trade: ALL Ones to get: see above ;-) But, remember to save the TP packet! (and the P38, of course!!)
From: Joerg on 23 Mar 2010 21:48 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Joerg wrote: >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: [...] >>> BTW, some canned goods were found in 'Old West' ghost towns that were >>> about 100 years old. Other than loss of flavor, they were supposed to >>> still be safe to eat. >>> >> We had some stuff like that in the army. As for flavor, that was rather >> debatable even when "fresh" :-) > > > It wasn't intened to be 'good', it was meant to keep you alive. > Well, we sometimes had helpful friends around to kill the stale taste. What were their names .... oh yeah, now I remember. Jack Daniels, Jim Beam ... -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 24 Mar 2010 00:24 Joel Koltner wrote: > > Say Michael, > > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:4BA95EC8.FB7C8EE3(a)earthlink.net... > > Some of the ones I got while in the Army were over 20 years old. When > > its -20 to -30 degrees and the only food for 15 miles, you don't > > complain, if you want your next meal. > > Where were you stationed, if you don't mind my asking? Fort Greely, Alaska -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
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