From: cjcountess on
On Aug 3, 3:34 pm, Virgil <Vir...(a)home.esc> wrote:
> In article
> <53f3038c-59f4-4fa7-8c56-6372ee107...(a)i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> Nonsense. Units may be certainly appended to numbers but if all numbers
> already "include" all units then 2^2 would have to represent 2 kilograms
> to the 2 meters power and simultaneoulsy 2 dynes to the 2 ohms power,
> etc..

No because these are man made arbitrary unites, but just as a photon
has measure of "mass" and "energy", that are equal, as well as
"length", that is inversely proportional to it, and "time cycle" also
associated with those measurements, an electron has these as well as
"temp", "charge" and "gravity rest mass" all related through
maathematical conversion factor c^2.

This being the case the electron or c^2 might serve as natural
conversion factor and basic natural unit related to many units of
measurement.

As far as dimensional analisis is concerned "sputnik", (E=mc^2)
trancends "dimensional analisis", in the triditional sense, because
conversion factor which is "c^2", is dimensional, and this conversion
factor is between dimensions of E,m.T,t,,Q.

Conrad J Countess
From: spudnik on
how does it transcend that, if it is just
"mass times length time length per time times time?"

the shape that one uses to diagram is not so important, although
the circle has a clear meaning to propogation of light
-- great circle of the wavefront --
which is Bucky's "analysis."

also, "E=mcc" isn't neccesarily the best formulary!

> As far as dimensional analisis is concerned "sputnik", (E=mc^2)
> trancends "dimensional analisis", in the triditional sense, because
> conversion factor which is "c^2", is dimensional, and this conversion
> factor is between dimensions of E,m.T,t,,Q.

thus:
the climate is changing rapidly, and, yet,
"glasshouse warming" is totally differential from front to back
w.r.t Sun, or from poles to equator, "globally."

thus: I've read of Muslim places where deforestation is a nearly
totalistic endeavor, for lumber, and that is probably the biggest
factor.
and, "global" warming actually is predominantly tropical,
and that is just a big, fat Duh.

thus: no; I want to know what they say about it,
not the "yeah or neigh" and the CVs -- lies, polls, statistics.
> Anyone wants to guess who the 3 dissending climatologists are ?

thus: there is no such a thing as a Nobel in econ., probably
for the same reason that there isn't one for math, but
I don't know that Krugman knows this, or that
his editor would allow him to publish it. however,
the official title is "the Swedish Bank Prize [etc.]."

--les ducs d'oil!
http://tarpley.net

Light, A History!
http://wlym.com
From: Virgil on
In article
<70a49f46-86ca-4831-8887-c4e7ec29a9cc(a)y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
cjcountess <cjcountess(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Aug 3, 3:34�pm, Virgil <Vir...(a)home.esc> wrote:
> > In article
> > <53f3038c-59f4-4fa7-8c56-6372ee107...(a)i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> > Nonsense. Units may be certainly appended to numbers but if all numbers
> > already "include" all units then 2^2 would have to represent 2 kilograms
> > to the 2 meters power and simultaneoulsy 2 dynes to the 2 ohms power,
> > etc..
>
> No because these are man made arbitrary unites, but just as a photon
> has measure of "mass" and "energy", that are equal, as well as
> "length", that is inversely proportional to it, and "time cycle" also
> associated with those measurements, an electron has these as well as
> "temp", "charge" and "gravity rest mass" all related through
> maathematical conversion factor c^2.

> >> Be it ever so umble, there's no place like ohm.
> >
> > Shocking!!!
>
> Watt's this nonsense? Either I are squared, or
> you guys need mho timeout.

Resistance is futile.

>
> This being the case the electron or c^2 might serve as natural
> conversion factor and basic natural unit related to many units of
> measurement.

> >> Be it ever so umble, there's no place like ohm.
> >
> > Shocking!!!
>
> Watt's this nonsense? Either I are squared, or
> you guys need mho timeout.

Resistance is futile.

>
> As far as dimensional analisis is concerned "sputnik", (E=mc^2)
> trancends "dimensional analisis", in the triditional sense, because
> conversion factor which is "c^2", is dimensional, and this conversion
> factor is between dimensions of E,m.T,t,,Q.

> >> Be it ever so umble, there's no place like ohm.
> >
> > Shocking!!!
>
> Watt's this nonsense? Either I are squared, or
> you guys need mho timeout.

Resistance is futile.
And her grace, the countess, is still wrong!!!

>
> Conrad J Countess
From: cjcountess on
Virgil

For your information I am a mam, and it is his grace, "Mr Countess" is
RIGHT.

A friend of mine and fellow poet "Janita Jackson" once read my work
and interpretaed the EM spectrum as the Energy/Matter spectrum instead
of the Electromagnetic spectrum.

I informed her that she was wrong in calling the EM spectrum the
Energy/Matter instead of the Electromagnetic tecnicaly as far as the
term is popularly used but that she was in fact right in spite of that
because the electromagnetic spectrum is the very spectrum in which
energy turns to matter when its reaches the critical frequency/
wavelength of c^2.

She also use to let us know that "thoughts", are things to, and as
such we should pay more attention and respect to our ideas.
The very nature of things which includes thoughts, that exist have by
their very nature dimensionsThis include thoughts of things that
supposedly have no dimensions such as so called dimensionless
intergers.

This being the case, there are no such things that exist, thoughts of
things or otherwise, that have no dimensions.

That is the long and the short of it.

One poster emailed me saying that although Fermats theorem resembled
geometry it is because at that time nuber theory was not as
sophisticated as to use the dimensionless interger as is presently
used today, more or less, and not because it is in fact based on
geometry.

But let me state that just as number theory advanced to the point
where the dimensionless interger is used between than and now it could
have very well advanced further to include the fact that all things in
existence that indeed do exist do indeed have dimensions even if not
obvious at first or numerous glances.

E=mc^2 lets us know that even thoughts that are composed of energy
have dimensions.

And furthermore in case you did not know E=mc^2 transended the
conservation laws of energy and mass as was than understood and
likewise transends dimensional analisis ideas which are presently
understood also.

I will explain in more detail later.

There is a new sheriff in town and he 's bringing the new law

Conrad J Countess
From: spudnik on
how many points on your little star, fool?... seriously,
numbertheory is the only place where numbers are dimensionless,
and a lot of us prefer to stay with rationals, thereinat,
like Fermatttt. although
fine scientists like Bellman assert that matrices (linear algebra)
is the "higher arithmetic," it is numbertheorie, or Gauss's "queen
of the sciences," with the consort being left to implication.

(for instance, look at Stevin's _The Decimals_ .-)

one has only to look at the Fermat curves, to see that
his "last" theorem is indeed geometrical, as also seen
in teh abstruse Wiles proof using "elliptic curves."

> There is a new sheriff in town and he's bringing the New Math.

thus:
the climate is changing rapidly, and, yet,
"glasshouse warming" is totally differential from front to back
w.r.t Sun, or from poles to equator, "globally."
thus: I've read of Muslim places where deforestation is a nearly
totalistic endeavor, for lumber, and that's a big factor.
and, "global" warming actually is predominantly tropical,
and that is just a big, fat Duh.
thus: no; I want to know what they say about it,
not the "yeah or neigh" and the CVs -- lies, polls, statistics.
> Anyone wants to guess who the 3 dissending climatologists are ?

thus: there is no such a thing as a Nobel in econ., probably
for the same reason that there isn't one for math, but
I don't know that Krugman knows this, or that
his editor would allow him to publish it. however,
the official title is "the Swedish Bank Prize [etc.]."

--les ducs d'oil!
http://tarpley.net

--Light, A History!
http://wlym.com