From: "Gregg Hill" greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot on
Yes, it is, but the problem is that the "same" is much slower than it should
be, and much slower than the Core or higher units.

Gregg



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Gregg's pet peeves:

First of all, what does a peeve look like, and why would anyone want one as
a pet?

Peeve #1: Apostrophes: when in doubt, leave them out! You will be correct
more often than not.

Its = Belonging to it. For example, "Look at the sky. Its color is blue."
It's = It is. For example, "It's hot today."
It's = It has. For example, "It's been nice talking to you."
Its' = completely incorrect usage. Stop it!


Peeve #2: Your vs. You're
"Your" means belonging to you, as in, "It's your truck."
"You're" means "You are." Example, you're probably about ready to throttle
me for this peeve!

"Mel Weaver" <MelRemoveSpam(a)Insdirect.com> wrote in message
news:uxDe41#sKHA.1608(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> According to this page
> http://www.watchguard.com/products/edge-e/detailed-specs.asp the firewall
> throughput is the same for the X10, X20 and X55.
>
>
> "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote
> in message news:#DSBkT#sKHA.5356(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> WatchGuard with XTM subscription.
>>
>> A Core X550e or higher is great. The Edge units have the same
>> functionality, but their download speeds with everything enabled aren't
>> good enough for my use.
>>
>> If you have a small office without a server room, the Core X550e may not
>> be for you as it is fairly loud.
>>
>> Gregg Hill
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gregg's pet peeves:
>>
>> First of all, what does a peeve look like, and why would anyone want one
>> as a pet?
>>
>> Peeve #1: Apostrophes: when in doubt, leave them out! You will be correct
>> more often than not.
>>
>> Its = Belonging to it. For example, "Look at the sky. Its color is blue."
>> It's = It is. For example, "It's hot today."
>> It's = It has. For example, "It's been nice talking to you."
>> Its' = completely incorrect usage. Stop it!
>>
>>
>> Peeve #2: Your vs. You're
>> "Your" means belonging to you, as in, "It's your truck."
>> "You're" means "You are." Example, you're probably about ready to
>> throttle me for this peeve!
>>
>> "Gary D" <gary(a)adm-partnership.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:eo7S2p9sKHA.1868(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi All,
>>> Can anybody recommend a firewall/router that has the ability to URL/WEB
>>> filter based on active directory (using LDAP ???) to use with my sbs
>>> 2008 prem. (I Want to avoid ISA !)
>>> I have previously used Draytek 2820n but I believe URL filtering on
>>> these cant be done on a IP/user/group, it is a global setting.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Gary D
>>
From: Leythos on
In article <#DSBkT#sKHA.5356(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Gregg Hill" says...
> WatchGuard with XTM subscription.
>
> A Core X550e or higher is great.
>

I second this, but I would purchase the UTM solution and then use the
latest firmware... The x550e is the minimum unit I purchase for shops
with less than 20 internet users, the x750e is my standard firewall for
under 100 internet users - the X1250e is for groups of 100+ or a company
with more than 10 site-site VPN's (in my opinion)

--
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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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From: "Gregg Hill" greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot on
Leythos,

While maybe not clear, that is what I meant by "WatchGuard with XTM
subscription." Yes, the bundle is the best way to go.

Unfortunately, I can't get small clients to bite on an X550e, so the Edge
price range is all they may consider. In my testing, the Edge units suffer a
huge hit when downloading via a proxy with AV, etc, enabled, while the X550e
is a negligible hit. A few years ago, SonicWALL's TZ 170 would max at
2.5Mbps down on a 10Mbps line, then their TZ 180 came out and only did
5Mbps. I complained a LOT and they kept saying it was the hardware, but then
they came out with a different firmware ("reassembly free" or something like
that) that produced near line-speed downloads.

If only WG could do that, I'd be able to sell more of them. I can't
recommend an X550e to a SOHO or small office that has no server room due to
the noise level.

I love the granularity of the WG and the ease of setup. Spam filtering is
awesome!

Gregg Hill



--
Gregg's pet peeves:

First of all, what does a peeve look like, and why would anyone want one as
a pet?

Peeve #1: Apostrophes: when in doubt, leave them out! You will be correct
more often than not.

Its = Belonging to it. For example, "Look at the sky. Its color is blue."
It's = It is. For example, "It's hot today."
It's = It has. For example, "It's been nice talking to you."
Its' = completely incorrect usage. Stop it!


Peeve #2: Your vs. You're
"Your" means belonging to you, as in, "It's your truck."
"You're" means "You are." Example, you're probably about ready to throttle
me for this peeve!

"Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25ecbd294561c62998a14b(a)us.news.astraweb.com...
> In article <#DSBkT#sKHA.5356(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Gregg Hill" says...
>> WatchGuard with XTM subscription.
>>
>> A Core X550e or higher is great.
>>
>
> I second this, but I would purchase the UTM solution and then use the
> latest firmware... The x550e is the minimum unit I purchase for shops
> with less than 20 internet users, the x750e is my standard firewall for
> under 100 internet users - the X1250e is for groups of 100+ or a company
> with more than 10 site-site VPN's (in my opinion)
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
> Trust yourself.
> spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

From: Leythos on
In article <e#rbAZCtKHA.4636(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Gregg Hill" says...
>
> Leythos,
>
> While maybe not clear, that is what I meant by "WatchGuard with XTM
> subscription." Yes, the bundle is the best way to go.
>
> Unfortunately, I can't get small clients to bite on an X550e, so the Edge
> price range is all they may consider. In my testing, the Edge units suffer a
> huge hit when downloading via a proxy with AV, etc, enabled, while the X550e
> is a negligible hit.

Yep, I only use the Edge units without the UTM products, as a advanced
NAT router.

> A few years ago, SonicWALL's TZ 170 would max at
> 2.5Mbps down on a 10Mbps line, then their TZ 180 came out and only did
> 5Mbps. I complained a LOT and they kept saying it was the hardware, but then
> they came out with a different firmware ("reassembly free" or something like
> that) that produced near line-speed downloads.
>
> If only WG could do that, I'd be able to sell more of them. I can't
> recommend an X550e to a SOHO or small office that has no server room due to
> the noise level.

Generally, there is a phone demark location, and we normally wall mount
the firewall there and add a 750VA UPS for it - then the cables run to a
switch at the office hub location. Noise is not a problem if you can do
it that way - there is almost always a closet or utility room area where
the phone panels are located.

> I love the granularity of the WG and the ease of setup. Spam filtering
> is awesome!

I just wish that renewals for UTM/LSS were cheaper, my x1250e is going
to set me back $1,600 to renew it for 1 year... The same UTM/LSS renewal
is about $500 for the x550e....


--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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From: Gary D on
Thanks for info Cris.
I completed the "contact us for pricing" section on their web site and have STILL not had any pricing back.
However, a Watchguard reseller has responded with pricing for their EDGE products which appear to do
the job also.
I would be grateful if you could send me any pricing, if Calyptics is good enough for MVP's its good enough for me.

Thanks, Gary D



"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crisnospamhanna(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote in message news:%23F2yvx9sKHA.3904(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Calyptix Access Enforcer...has an AD Connector which comes with it
All provides great UTM functionality

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Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1
Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
A Microsoft Registered Partner
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Please do not submit questions directly to me.

"Gary D" <gary(a)adm-partnership.co.uk> wrote in message news:eo7S2p9sKHA.1868(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Hi All,
Can anybody recommend a firewall/router that has the ability to URL/WEB
filter based on active directory (using LDAP ???) to use with my sbs 2008
prem. (I Want to avoid ISA !)
I have previously used Draytek 2820n but I believe URL filtering on these
cant be done on a IP/user/group, it is a global setting.

TIA
Gary D