From: George on 17 Jul 2010 16:13 On 7/17/2010 12:27 PM, LM wrote: > What good is calculus if nobody practically uses it. Really? that would be big news to a lot of folks who use calculus in their work. > My pool has an uneven bottom (shallow and deep and varying greatly). > > All pool-volume calculators I can find assume a gently sloping bottom (and > therefore use geometric simplifications). I want to try a calculus based > pool volume calculator (that takes the actual shape of the bottom curve > into consideration). > > To obtain an accurate pool water volume, I just measured in two dozen > places every few feet the varying depth of an irregularly shaped pool. > > I realize, with those numbers, I can draw a side view and then break it > into squares to calculate the volume but there must be a calculus volume > calculator out there that will take the shape of the bottom curves. > > But since this is a common need of every pool owner of an irregularly > shaped pool, I wonder if there is a good freeware calculus (not geometry) > pool volume calculator out there that you recommend. > > Googling, I found these two Windows freeware volume applications: > * AD Geometrical calculator http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=4749 > * Volume Calculator > http://www.freewarefiles.com/Volume-Calculator_program_43621.html > > And, of course, there are the generic geometric pool-volume calculators > (which all suffer from geometry assumptions): > * > http://www.pentairpool.com/pool-owner/resources/calculators/pool-volume-calc/poolcalc.htm > * http://www.poolspa.com/calculator/ > * http://www.poolwizard.net/pool-volume/ > * http://www.backyardcitypools.com/swimming-pools/Pool-Volume-Calculate.htm > * http://www.poolandspachemicals.co.uk/volcalc.htm > * http://www.havuz.org/pool-calculators.htm > * http://www.poolfactoryonline.com/tutorials/pool-volume-calculator > * http://poolways.com/volume.html > > What good is calculus if nobody uses it? > Do know of any volume calculators that will take the shape of the pool > bottom (measured in two-foot increments) into consideration accurately > without geometric simplification?
From: Malcolm Hoar on 17 Jul 2010 17:09 In article <i1slme$ah4$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, LM <xxxvte.lisa.meisnerxxx(a)verizon.net> wrote: >Do know of any volume calculators that will take the shape of the pool >bottom (measured in two-foot increments) into consideration accurately >without geometric simplification? No. But since you've made the depth measurements in two-foot increments, just carve up the pool into those two-foot solids. Calculate the volume of each solid and add 'em all up. A little tedious but it shouldn't take long. It's going to be pretty much as accurate as you can get from the available measurement data. -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". | | malch(a)malch.com Gary Player. | | http://www.malch.com/ Shpx gur PQN. | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Clot on 17 Jul 2010 18:07 Malcolm Hoar wrote: > In article <i1slme$ah4$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, LM > <xxxvte.lisa.meisnerxxx(a)verizon.net> wrote: >> Do know of any volume calculators that will take the shape of the >> pool bottom (measured in two-foot increments) into consideration >> accurately without geometric simplification? > > No. But since you've made the depth measurements in two-foot > increments, just carve up the pool into those two-foot solids. > Calculate the volume of each solid and add 'em all up. > > A little tedious but it shouldn't take long. > > It's going to be pretty much as accurate as you can get from > the available measurement data. I found the OP rather surprising. Though to be fair, both my kids (in their twenties and thirties) would be flumoxed. Whilst struggling under a motor asking for an 8 mm. socket from them would challenge them. Asking for a 1/2" Whit or an AF would ensure that they signed up to the Chattering Classes.
From: krw on 17 Jul 2010 18:53 On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:09:45 GMT, malch(a)malch.com (Malcolm Hoar) wrote: >In article <i1slme$ah4$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, LM <xxxvte.lisa.meisnerxxx(a)verizon.net> wrote: >>Do know of any volume calculators that will take the shape of the pool >>bottom (measured in two-foot increments) into consideration accurately >>without geometric simplification? > >No. But since you've made the depth measurements in two-foot >increments, just carve up the pool into those two-foot solids. >Calculate the volume of each solid and add 'em all up. Enter the depth measurements for each two-foot square into a spreadsheet. Sum all cells and multiply by the size of the square (four, in this case) and convert to the unit of choice (times 8 for gallons). >A little tedious but it shouldn't take long. Not at all. ;-) >It's going to be pretty much as accurate as you can get from >the available measurement data. Yep. As another poster said, he doesn't have the equation to fit the bottom of the pool so it's not a calculus problem.
From: Brent on 18 Jul 2010 02:57
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:27:32 -0700, LM wrote: > Googling, I found these two Windows freeware volume applications: > * AD Geometrical calculator http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=4749 > * Volume Calculator > http://www.freewarefiles.com/Volume-Calculator_program_43621.html Neither of which is freeware that performs pool volume calculations. The first is trial ware and it doesn't do pool volumes with slopes. The second is a cylindrical volume calculator. What you need does not exist. |