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From: Magnus on 18 Jan 2010 19:18
In article
<2f83daf2-ea12-4d11-ab49-d3ac9de1f1d1(a)q4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
"." <sustainable.future116(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
> As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
> planet. It will also affect us;
> rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
> waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
> brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
> due to droughts are some of the effects.
> As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
> coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
> can every single person do to reduce global warming ?
>
>

To celebrate Earth Day I burn a tire. Just trying to do my part.
From: John McWilliams on 19 Jan 2010 01:30
On 1/18/10 PDT 4:18 PM, Magnus wrote:
> In article
> <2f83daf2-ea12-4d11-ab49-d3ac9de1f1d1(a)q4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> "."<sustainable.future116(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
>> planet. It will also affect us;
>> rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
>> waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
>> brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
>> due to droughts are some of the effects.
>> As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
>> coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
>> can every single person do to reduce global warming ?
>>
>>
>
> To celebrate Earth Day I burn a tire. Just trying to do my part.

You should burn four at once, and lots of petrol, by making your car
spin in circles, with the engine pretty much floored. In addition to
being a ridiculous waste of rubber, petrol and time, it is noisy,
smelly, and dangerous.... in some "circles" it's called side-showing.

--
john mcwilliams
From: VAXman- on 19 Jan 2010 12:51
In article <michelle-59273E.06550519012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> writes:
>In article <C77A3EC1.3C5D6%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>,
> George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CF bulbs are nasty little bastards that fail to come to full lumen
>> output half the time and do NOT last as long as claimed. That, and the
>> environmental damage make them the LAST selection I would make for my
>> "lightning" needs, behind Telsa Coils and LEDs.
>
><http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp>

I'd prefer no Hg in the environment regardless of the opinions at Snopes.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG

http://www.quirkfactory.com/popart/asskey/eqn2.png

"Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"
From: Richard Maine on 19 Jan 2010 13:19
Ed H. <fake(a)notreal.net> wrote:

> In article <00A97BDA.E5B03378(a)SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
> wrote:

> > FWIW, something for the "greenies" to consider. It takes considerable more
> > energy to create the typical compact fluorescent lamp. Also, these compact
> > fluorescents have mercury in them. How much more toxic mercury will be in-
> > troduced to the environment when people carelessly toss them out with their
> > typical rubbish bound for the landfill.
> >
>
> But then ALL fluorescent bulbs have a small amount of mercury in them.
> That means virtually all office buildings, factories, retail stores,
> etc. that are illuminated with fluorescent tubes. I seriously doubt
> most of these entities have been disposing of them properly over the
> past decades. They have been in widespread use for more that fifty
> years, so why the concern now?

Because someone with an axe to grind started a FUD campaign.

There is more mercury put into the environment by incandescents than by
CFLs. That's because the largest source of hazardous mercury in the
environment is from coal-burning power plants. The higher energy use of
an incandescent is enough to put well more mercury into the environment
through the coal plants than is in a comparable CFL.

And that's not even counting the fact that the mercury emitted from
coal-burning plants is in a far more dangerous form than that in a CFL.
It isn't as though anything we do is actually creating or destroying
mercury. The total amount of mercury in the world stays the same (to a
very good approximation; I think it safe to neglect meteorite impact,
transmutation, etc.). But coal-burning power plants put it into the air
in a very bioactive form; yes, that makes a big difference.

--
Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience;
email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: Kurt Ullman on 19 Jan 2010 14:01
In article <1jck9jm.1pv5h8o8br0acN%nospam(a)see.signature>,
nospam(a)see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote:


> And that's not even counting the fact that the mercury emitted from
> coal-burning plants is in a far more dangerous form than that in a CFL.
> It isn't as though anything we do is actually creating or destroying
> mercury. The total amount of mercury in the world stays the same (to a
> very good approximation; I think it safe to neglect meteorite impact,
> transmutation, etc.). But coal-burning power plants put it into the air
> in a very bioactive form; yes, that makes a big difference.
I have seen this expoused, but never actually backed up with actual
research. (Haven't seen the opposite backed up either in the interests
of full disclosure). Any place I can go that would be give me an
authoratative discussion of this?

--
To find that place where the rats don't race
and the phones don't ring at all.
If once, you've slept on an island.
Scott Kirby "If once you've slept on an island"

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