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From: Tom on 28 May 2010 13:10 On May 28, 6:56 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On May 28, 1:27 am, Tom <danto...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 27, 10:38 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 27, 2:30 pm, gl...(a)panix.com (Robert Scott Martin) wrote: > > > > > >> Hoping for a bit about falconry ("things fall apart..."), only to find the > > > > >> melancholy shade of Anders "snowman" Sandberg. This thread is not quite > > > > >> living up to its potential. > > > > > In article <4BFD86F2.8030...(a)isp.com>, > > > > Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. <jpsti...(a)isp.com> wrote: > > > > > >*Phew* for a brief moment i thought there was gong to be a dump on > > > > >Stephen Hawking thread:) > > > > >Perhaps some black hole enthusiast that didn't care for the concept of > > > > >Hawking radiation? > > > > > In the aggregate, these seemingly disjointed turns of phrase -- "a dump on > > > > Stephen Hawking" and "hawking radiation" -- waft the whiff of the "mute" > > > > or at best chalk. Which is, I suppose, what we're doing here: fighting our > > > > way out of the entropic gyre by scribbling or perhaps simply daubing the > > > > walls. Surely some revelation is at hand. > > > > Entropy can be beat as long as there are energy sources around and > > > intelligence. > > > That's only a delaying tactic, like paying this month's mortgage > > installment by taking out a home equity loan. > > If the delay is until the end of the universe, whenever that is, who > cares? It's that very tactic that immanentizes the eschaton in the first place. If energy wasn't constantly being borrowed from Peter to pay Paul, there would be no end of the universe at all. So you're not beating entropy that way, but contributing to it.
From: Don Stockbauer on 28 May 2010 15:49 On May 28, 12:10 pm, Tom <danto...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On May 28, 6:56 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 28, 1:27 am, Tom <danto...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > On May 27, 10:38 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 27, 2:30 pm, gl...(a)panix.com (Robert Scott Martin) wrote: > > > > > > >> Hoping for a bit about falconry ("things fall apart..."), only to find the > > > > > >> melancholy shade of Anders "snowman" Sandberg. This thread is not quite > > > > > >> living up to its potential. > > > > > > In article <4BFD86F2.8030...(a)isp.com>, > > > > > Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. <jpsti...(a)isp.com> wrote: > > > > > > >*Phew* for a brief moment i thought there was gong to be a dump on > > > > > >Stephen Hawking thread:) > > > > > >Perhaps some black hole enthusiast that didn't care for the concept of > > > > > >Hawking radiation? > > > > > > In the aggregate, these seemingly disjointed turns of phrase -- "a dump on > > > > > Stephen Hawking" and "hawking radiation" -- waft the whiff of the "mute" > > > > > or at best chalk. Which is, I suppose, what we're doing here: fighting our > > > > > way out of the entropic gyre by scribbling or perhaps simply daubing the > > > > > walls. Surely some revelation is at hand. > > > > > Entropy can be beat as long as there are energy sources around and > > > > intelligence. > > > > That's only a delaying tactic, like paying this month's mortgage > > > installment by taking out a home equity loan. > > > If the delay is until the end of the universe, whenever that is, who > > cares? > > It's that very tactic that immanentizes the eschaton in the first > place. If energy wasn't constantly being borrowed from Peter to pay > Paul, there would be no end of the universe at all. So you're not > beating entropy that way, but contributing to it. I'm not worried about it. More important fish to fry..
From: Don Stockbauer on 28 May 2010 15:50 On May 28, 9:28 am, gl...(a)panix.com (Robert Scott Martin) wrote: > >>hoping for a bit about falconry > > In article <7281d6cd-44d3-4772-b5f1-fce6727b8...(a)40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, > Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> That's only a delaying tactic, like paying this month's mortgage > >> installment by taking out a home equity loan. > > >If the delay is until the end of the universe, whenever that is, who > >cares? > > "My friend here has smelled your food, and you have heard his money," said > Mullah Nasruddin. "The debt is paid." "Pecan oil is highly polyunsaturated."
From: Tom on 28 May 2010 16:21 On May 28, 12:49 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On May 28, 12:10 pm, Tom <danto...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 28, 6:56 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 28, 1:27 am, Tom <danto...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > On May 27, 10:38 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 27, 2:30 pm, gl...(a)panix.com (Robert Scott Martin) wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hoping for a bit about falconry ("things fall apart..."), only to find the > > > > > > >> melancholy shade of Anders "snowman" Sandberg. This thread is not quite > > > > > > >> living up to its potential. > > > > > > > In article <4BFD86F2.8030...(a)isp.com>, > > > > > > Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. <jpsti...(a)isp.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >*Phew* for a brief moment i thought there was gong to be a dump on > > > > > > >Stephen Hawking thread:) > > > > > > >Perhaps some black hole enthusiast that didn't care for the concept of > > > > > > >Hawking radiation? > > > > > > > In the aggregate, these seemingly disjointed turns of phrase -- "a dump on > > > > > > Stephen Hawking" and "hawking radiation" -- waft the whiff of the "mute" > > > > > > or at best chalk. Which is, I suppose, what we're doing here: fighting our > > > > > > way out of the entropic gyre by scribbling or perhaps simply daubing the > > > > > > walls. Surely some revelation is at hand. > > > > > > Entropy can be beat as long as there are energy sources around and > > > > > intelligence. > > > > > That's only a delaying tactic, like paying this month's mortgage > > > > installment by taking out a home equity loan. > > > > If the delay is until the end of the universe, whenever that is, who > > > cares? > > > It's that very tactic that immanentizes the eschaton in the first > > place. If energy wasn't constantly being borrowed from Peter to pay > > Paul, there would be no end of the universe at all. So you're not > > beating entropy that way, but contributing to it. > > I'm not worried about it. More important fish to fry. Life is fleeting. Seize the day.
From: Don Stockbauer on 29 May 2010 07:46
On May 28, 3:21 pm, Tom <danto...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On May 28, 12:49 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 28, 12:10 pm, Tom <danto...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > On May 28, 6:56 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 28, 1:27 am, Tom <danto...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > On May 27, 10:38 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 27, 2:30 pm, gl...(a)panix.com (Robert Scott Martin) wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Hoping for a bit about falconry ("things fall apart..."), only to find the > > > > > > > >> melancholy shade of Anders "snowman" Sandberg. This thread is not quite > > > > > > > >> living up to its potential. > > > > > > > > In article <4BFD86F2.8030...(a)isp.com>, > > > > > > > Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. <jpsti...(a)isp.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >*Phew* for a brief moment i thought there was gong to be a dump on > > > > > > > >Stephen Hawking thread:) > > > > > > > >Perhaps some black hole enthusiast that didn't care for the concept of > > > > > > > >Hawking radiation? > > > > > > > > In the aggregate, these seemingly disjointed turns of phrase -- "a dump on > > > > > > > Stephen Hawking" and "hawking radiation" -- waft the whiff of the "mute" > > > > > > > or at best chalk. Which is, I suppose, what we're doing here: fighting our > > > > > > > way out of the entropic gyre by scribbling or perhaps simply daubing the > > > > > > > walls. Surely some revelation is at hand. > > > > > > > Entropy can be beat as long as there are energy sources around and > > > > > > intelligence. > > > > > > That's only a delaying tactic, like paying this month's mortgage > > > > > installment by taking out a home equity loan. > > > > > If the delay is until the end of the universe, whenever that is, who > > > > cares? > > > > It's that very tactic that immanentizes the eschaton in the first > > > place. If energy wasn't constantly being borrowed from Peter to pay > > > Paul, there would be no end of the universe at all. So you're not > > > beating entropy that way, but contributing to it. > > > I'm not worried about it. More important fish to fry. > > Life is fleeting. Seize the day I do dat. |