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From: Keith on 17 Sep 2008 18:51 Thank you for the reply. Yes, I do have a full backup of the server. I would really like to get this HDD to boot however. I am currently running scan disk on the disk on a XP Pro workstation right now.....The backup I have is on another drive that is still operational... It was a Raid 1 that failed (2) drives, plus I had a 3rd drive that the array backed up to... "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote: > Do you have a full backup of the server? > > -- > Merv Porter [SBS-MVP] > ============================ > > "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:6B34F753-EE92-4928-A71D-9CB9C8108F54(a)microsoft.com... > > Hello again, > > > > Very sorry for the long delay, It has been a rough few days since the > > server has went down. Anyway, here is what I found out: > > > > When I Disable restart on the system failure, The blue screen code I get > > is > > this: > > > > STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF78A2A94, 0XC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000 > > > > If I take the drive that is ok and hook it up to a XP machine, I did find > > a > > lot of Information, in fact about 72GB which is what I think I had on that > > drive. I Cant however get the other drive to show up in windows. Just > > the > > bios and device manager. That must be due to the Dynamic Disk that I set > > up. > > You will have to excuse me, I am not very informed about Dynamic Disk's > > and > > how they work, but it just looks like one disk is usable, and other other > > is > > not right now. What I dont understand is that somehow both disk's must be > > damaged in some way, because either one will not boot. It just shows in > > the > > Raid Bios that Raid is Degraded, and one drive has failed, but the other > > is > > bootable. It does not however boot though. I had a UPS attached to the > > Server, and I thought that this Raid 1 (Mirrored) Array would be enough > > redundancy for what we use it for. About 26 Workstations attached to it. > > > > I did try and switch from Primary Master and Save positions, and it made > > no > > difference. The drives are SATA 1.5 Drives. Maxtor in fact. > > > > One more thing, how do you get the contents of the Boot.Ini file from a > > Boot > > Disk? Thank you again for your time, and again, sorry for the delay... > > > > > > > > "Matabra" wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Can you do a restart (F8 Disable restart on system failure) and tell us > >> the > >> bluescreen code. > >> > >> Most likely even though it is booting off the second drive it doesnt know > >> about anything on the first drive > >> > >> Can you post the contents of Boot.ini (boot off a recovery/winPE disk) > >> > >> If you can check that the HDD is in position 0 (primary master), and then > >> try it in position 1 (primary slave) > >> > >> What type of drives are they , scsi , sata, ide? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Matt > >> > >> "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com... > >> > Hello all, > >> > > >> > I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I > >> > have a > >> > SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked > >> > up, > >> > (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had > >> > created > >> > has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be > >> > a > >> > problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard > >> > raid > >> > controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1 > >> > array, > >> > but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System". > >> > I > >> > can > >> > turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the > >> > drives, > >> > but > >> > then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would > >> > really > >> > like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is > >> > not > >> > telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system". > >> > > >> > The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when > >> > I > >> > installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe > >> > Motherboard, > >> > and > >> > it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to > >> > "Dynamic > >> > Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I > >> > took > >> > the > >> > drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine, > >> > and > >> > it > >> > only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around > >> > 160GB > >> > in total size. > >> > > >> > I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive > >> > up > >> > even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really, > >> > really > >> > like > >> > to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild > >> > the > >> > array later. > >> > > >> > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!! > >> > > >> > > >
From: Gorge Lucas on 18 Sep 2008 00:54 Don't use these onboard raid controllers... More trouble than they are worth. They are not really what I would call a proper raid controller. "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com... > Hello all, > > I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I have a > SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked up, > (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had > created > has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be a > problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard > raid > controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1 array, > but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System". I > can > turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the drives, > but > then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would > really > like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is > not > telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system". > > The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when I > installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe Motherboard, > and > it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to "Dynamic > Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I took > the > drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine, and > it > only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around > 160GB > in total size. > > I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive up > even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really, really > like > to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild > the > array later. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!! >
From: Keith on 18 Sep 2008 10:14 Yes, I agree. I am ordering a PCI Hardware Raid Controller today and I have already ordered two new HDD's. Thanks for the heads up!! Any Idea on how I can make this drive bootable again? It seems like all the data is on the drive, it just wont boot. I think the real problem I have is that I was running onboard Raid 1, and had converted them to dynamic disk's. It seems tring to make that drive bootable again is going to be either a challange, or down right impossible. Any thoughts on some software that might help me? Thank you... "Gorge Lucas" wrote: > Don't use these onboard raid controllers... More trouble than they are > worth. They are not really what I would call a proper raid controller. > > > "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com... > > Hello all, > > > > I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I have a > > SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked up, > > (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had > > created > > has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be a > > problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard > > raid > > controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1 array, > > but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System". I > > can > > turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the drives, > > but > > then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would > > really > > like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is > > not > > telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system". > > > > The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when I > > installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe Motherboard, > > and > > it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to "Dynamic > > Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I took > > the > > drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine, and > > it > > only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around > > 160GB > > in total size. > > > > I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive up > > even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really, really > > like > > to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild > > the > > array later. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!! > > > > >
From: Jim Behning SBS MVP on 18 Sep 2008 11:04 I would image drive. I would then install imaged drive in working machine, preferably Server 2003, open disk manager and mark drive active. You may be able to mark a drive active in XP. You could even install yet a most basic install of Server 2003 on yet another hard drive so you could mark that drive active. That has worked for me a few times. It also can screw things up if you mark the wrong drive active. On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:14:01 -0700, Keith <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Yes, I agree. I am ordering a PCI Hardware Raid Controller today and I have >already ordered two new HDD's. Thanks for the heads up!! > >Any Idea on how I can make this drive bootable again? It seems like all the >data is on the drive, it just wont boot. I think the real problem I have is >that I was running onboard Raid 1, and had converted them to dynamic disk's. >It seems tring to make that drive bootable again is going to be either a >challange, or down right impossible. Any thoughts on some software that >might help me? Thank you... > >"Gorge Lucas" wrote: > >> Don't use these onboard raid controllers... More trouble than they are >> worth. They are not really what I would call a proper raid controller. >> >> >> "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com... >> > Hello all, >> > >> > I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I have a >> > SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked up, >> > (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had >> > created >> > has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be a >> > problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard >> > raid >> > controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1 array, >> > but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System". I >> > can >> > turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the drives, >> > but >> > then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would >> > really >> > like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is >> > not >> > telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system". >> > >> > The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when I >> > installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe Motherboard, >> > and >> > it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to "Dynamic >> > Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I took >> > the >> > drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine, and >> > it >> > only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around >> > 160GB >> > in total size. >> > >> > I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive up >> > even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really, really >> > like >> > to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild >> > the >> > array later. >> > >> > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!! >> > >> >> >> See what SBS support is working on http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
From: Keith on 18 Sep 2008 11:21
Hello Jim, Thank you for the advice. I was planning to make an image today of the good, but unbootable drive today. However, I will try your advice and install a clean basic install of Server 03, and go from there. Thank you for your time Jim!! "Jim Behning SBS MVP" wrote: > I would image drive. I would then install imaged drive in working > machine, preferably Server 2003, open disk manager and mark drive > active. You may be able to mark a drive active in XP. You could even > install yet a most basic install of Server 2003 on yet another hard > drive so you could mark that drive active. > > That has worked for me a few times. It also can screw things up if you > mark the wrong drive active. > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:14:01 -0700, Keith > <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >Yes, I agree. I am ordering a PCI Hardware Raid Controller today and I have > >already ordered two new HDD's. Thanks for the heads up!! > > > >Any Idea on how I can make this drive bootable again? It seems like all the > >data is on the drive, it just wont boot. I think the real problem I have is > >that I was running onboard Raid 1, and had converted them to dynamic disk's. > >It seems tring to make that drive bootable again is going to be either a > >challange, or down right impossible. Any thoughts on some software that > >might help me? Thank you... > > > >"Gorge Lucas" wrote: > > > >> Don't use these onboard raid controllers... More trouble than they are > >> worth. They are not really what I would call a proper raid controller. > >> > >> > >> "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com... > >> > Hello all, > >> > > >> > I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I have a > >> > SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked up, > >> > (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had > >> > created > >> > has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be a > >> > problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard > >> > raid > >> > controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1 array, > >> > but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System". I > >> > can > >> > turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the drives, > >> > but > >> > then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would > >> > really > >> > like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is > >> > not > >> > telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system". > >> > > >> > The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when I > >> > installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe Motherboard, > >> > and > >> > it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to "Dynamic > >> > Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I took > >> > the > >> > drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine, and > >> > it > >> > only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around > >> > 160GB > >> > in total size. > >> > > >> > I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive up > >> > even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really, really > >> > like > >> > to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild > >> > the > >> > array later. > >> > > >> > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!! > >> > > >> > >> > >> > See what SBS support is working on > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx > Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx > |