From: Keith on
Thank you for the reply.

Yes, I do have a full backup of the server. I would really like to get
this HDD to boot however. I am currently running scan disk on the disk on a
XP Pro workstation right now.....The backup I have is on another drive that
is still operational... It was a Raid 1 that failed (2) drives, plus I had a
3rd drive that the array backed up to...



"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Do you have a full backup of the server?
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
>
> "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6B34F753-EE92-4928-A71D-9CB9C8108F54(a)microsoft.com...
> > Hello again,
> >
> > Very sorry for the long delay, It has been a rough few days since the
> > server has went down. Anyway, here is what I found out:
> >
> > When I Disable restart on the system failure, The blue screen code I get
> > is
> > this:
> >
> > STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF78A2A94, 0XC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000
> >
> > If I take the drive that is ok and hook it up to a XP machine, I did find
> > a
> > lot of Information, in fact about 72GB which is what I think I had on that
> > drive. I Cant however get the other drive to show up in windows. Just
> > the
> > bios and device manager. That must be due to the Dynamic Disk that I set
> > up.
> > You will have to excuse me, I am not very informed about Dynamic Disk's
> > and
> > how they work, but it just looks like one disk is usable, and other other
> > is
> > not right now. What I dont understand is that somehow both disk's must be
> > damaged in some way, because either one will not boot. It just shows in
> > the
> > Raid Bios that Raid is Degraded, and one drive has failed, but the other
> > is
> > bootable. It does not however boot though. I had a UPS attached to the
> > Server, and I thought that this Raid 1 (Mirrored) Array would be enough
> > redundancy for what we use it for. About 26 Workstations attached to it.
> >
> > I did try and switch from Primary Master and Save positions, and it made
> > no
> > difference. The drives are SATA 1.5 Drives. Maxtor in fact.
> >
> > One more thing, how do you get the contents of the Boot.Ini file from a
> > Boot
> > Disk? Thank you again for your time, and again, sorry for the delay...
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matabra" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Can you do a restart (F8 Disable restart on system failure) and tell us
> >> the
> >> bluescreen code.
> >>
> >> Most likely even though it is booting off the second drive it doesnt know
> >> about anything on the first drive
> >>
> >> Can you post the contents of Boot.ini (boot off a recovery/winPE disk)
> >>
> >> If you can check that the HDD is in position 0 (primary master), and then
> >> try it in position 1 (primary slave)
> >>
> >> What type of drives are they , scsi , sata, ide?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Matt
> >>
> >> "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I
> >> > have a
> >> > SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked
> >> > up,
> >> > (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had
> >> > created
> >> > has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be
> >> > a
> >> > problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard
> >> > raid
> >> > controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1
> >> > array,
> >> > but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System".
> >> > I
> >> > can
> >> > turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the
> >> > drives,
> >> > but
> >> > then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would
> >> > really
> >> > like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is
> >> > not
> >> > telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system".
> >> >
> >> > The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when
> >> > I
> >> > installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe
> >> > Motherboard,
> >> > and
> >> > it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to
> >> > "Dynamic
> >> > Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I
> >> > took
> >> > the
> >> > drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine,
> >> > and
> >> > it
> >> > only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around
> >> > 160GB
> >> > in total size.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive
> >> > up
> >> > even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really,
> >> > really
> >> > like
> >> > to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild
> >> > the
> >> > array later.
> >> >
> >> > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!!
> >> >
> >>
>
>
>
From: Gorge Lucas on
Don't use these onboard raid controllers... More trouble than they are
worth. They are not really what I would call a proper raid controller.


"Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com...
> Hello all,
>
> I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I have a
> SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked up,
> (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had
> created
> has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be a
> problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard
> raid
> controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1 array,
> but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System". I
> can
> turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the drives,
> but
> then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would
> really
> like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is
> not
> telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system".
>
> The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when I
> installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe Motherboard,
> and
> it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to "Dynamic
> Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I took
> the
> drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine, and
> it
> only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around
> 160GB
> in total size.
>
> I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive up
> even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really, really
> like
> to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild
> the
> array later.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!!
>


From: Keith on
Yes, I agree. I am ordering a PCI Hardware Raid Controller today and I have
already ordered two new HDD's. Thanks for the heads up!!

Any Idea on how I can make this drive bootable again? It seems like all the
data is on the drive, it just wont boot. I think the real problem I have is
that I was running onboard Raid 1, and had converted them to dynamic disk's.
It seems tring to make that drive bootable again is going to be either a
challange, or down right impossible. Any thoughts on some software that
might help me? Thank you...

"Gorge Lucas" wrote:

> Don't use these onboard raid controllers... More trouble than they are
> worth. They are not really what I would call a proper raid controller.
>
>
> "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com...
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I have a
> > SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked up,
> > (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had
> > created
> > has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be a
> > problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard
> > raid
> > controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1 array,
> > but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System". I
> > can
> > turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the drives,
> > but
> > then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would
> > really
> > like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is
> > not
> > telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system".
> >
> > The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when I
> > installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe Motherboard,
> > and
> > it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to "Dynamic
> > Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I took
> > the
> > drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine, and
> > it
> > only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around
> > 160GB
> > in total size.
> >
> > I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive up
> > even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really, really
> > like
> > to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild
> > the
> > array later.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!!
> >
>
>
>
From: Jim Behning SBS MVP on
I would image drive. I would then install imaged drive in working
machine, preferably Server 2003, open disk manager and mark drive
active. You may be able to mark a drive active in XP. You could even
install yet a most basic install of Server 2003 on yet another hard
drive so you could mark that drive active.

That has worked for me a few times. It also can screw things up if you
mark the wrong drive active.

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:14:01 -0700, Keith
<Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Yes, I agree. I am ordering a PCI Hardware Raid Controller today and I have
>already ordered two new HDD's. Thanks for the heads up!!
>
>Any Idea on how I can make this drive bootable again? It seems like all the
>data is on the drive, it just wont boot. I think the real problem I have is
>that I was running onboard Raid 1, and had converted them to dynamic disk's.
>It seems tring to make that drive bootable again is going to be either a
>challange, or down right impossible. Any thoughts on some software that
>might help me? Thank you...
>
>"Gorge Lucas" wrote:
>
>> Don't use these onboard raid controllers... More trouble than they are
>> worth. They are not really what I would call a proper raid controller.
>>
>>
>> "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com...
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I have a
>> > SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked up,
>> > (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had
>> > created
>> > has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be a
>> > problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard
>> > raid
>> > controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1 array,
>> > but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System". I
>> > can
>> > turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the drives,
>> > but
>> > then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would
>> > really
>> > like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is
>> > not
>> > telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system".
>> >
>> > The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when I
>> > installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe Motherboard,
>> > and
>> > it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to "Dynamic
>> > Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I took
>> > the
>> > drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine, and
>> > it
>> > only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around
>> > 160GB
>> > in total size.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive up
>> > even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really, really
>> > like
>> > to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild
>> > the
>> > array later.
>> >
>> > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!!
>> >
>>
>>
>>
See what SBS support is working on
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
From: Keith on
Hello Jim,

Thank you for the advice. I was planning to make an image today of the
good, but unbootable drive today. However, I will try your advice and
install a clean basic install of Server 03, and go from there. Thank you for
your time Jim!!



"Jim Behning SBS MVP" wrote:

> I would image drive. I would then install imaged drive in working
> machine, preferably Server 2003, open disk manager and mark drive
> active. You may be able to mark a drive active in XP. You could even
> install yet a most basic install of Server 2003 on yet another hard
> drive so you could mark that drive active.
>
> That has worked for me a few times. It also can screw things up if you
> mark the wrong drive active.
>
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:14:01 -0700, Keith
> <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Yes, I agree. I am ordering a PCI Hardware Raid Controller today and I have
> >already ordered two new HDD's. Thanks for the heads up!!
> >
> >Any Idea on how I can make this drive bootable again? It seems like all the
> >data is on the drive, it just wont boot. I think the real problem I have is
> >that I was running onboard Raid 1, and had converted them to dynamic disk's.
> >It seems tring to make that drive bootable again is going to be either a
> >challange, or down right impossible. Any thoughts on some software that
> >might help me? Thank you...
> >
> >"Gorge Lucas" wrote:
> >
> >> Don't use these onboard raid controllers... More trouble than they are
> >> worth. They are not really what I would call a proper raid controller.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Keith" <Keith(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:EF33B748-C3D3-4C94-B780-8A1E3B1F7AA9(a)microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > I need some help if someone has the time and knowledge to do so. I have a
> >> > SBS 2003 Server, and Monday I came into work and the server had locked up,
> >> > (crashed). I restarted only to find out the Raid 1 array that I had
> >> > created
> >> > has been lost and degraded. One of my HDD's failed. This shouldn't be a
> >> > problem, I have dealt with this is the past on other pc's with onboard
> >> > raid
> >> > controllers, and have always been able to boot with a failed raid 1 array,
> >> > but this time is different. It says "Error Loading Operating System". I
> >> > can
> >> > turn off raid in the bios, and boot into safe mode on one of the drives,
> >> > but
> >> > then it just restarts. I have a back up on another drive, but I would
> >> > really
> >> > like to get this drive to boot again. The problem I have is that it is
> >> > not
> >> > telling me what's wrong; it just says "Error loading operation system".
> >> >
> >> > The only thing that I remember as far as information you may need when I
> >> > installed SBS 03 5 years ago, I used a Asus P4c800-D Deluxe Motherboard,
> >> > and
> >> > it used a Ich5R raid controller. I remember having to switch to "Dynamic
> >> > Disk" in order to fully install SBS 03. Another really odd thing, I took
> >> > the
> >> > drive out that is kind of bootable, and hooked it up to a XP machine, and
> >> > it
> >> > only shows that the drive is around 1GB in total size when it is around
> >> > 160GB
> >> > in total size.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure if I should do a chk disk for fear I may mess that drive up
> >> > even more. There is some data on that drive that I would really, really
> >> > like
> >> > to get off, or better yet have it bootable again. I can always rebuild
> >> > the
> >> > array later.
> >> >
> >> > Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!!
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> See what SBS support is working on
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/default.aspx
> Check your SBS with the SBS Best Practices Analyzer
> http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/tags/BPA/default.aspx
>