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From: Michel Posseth [MCP] on 1 Feb 2010 00:38 > So you think you're the only one do you? No , but i do believe i am one of the few VB6 coders who can code reall VB6 and reall VB.Net code and knows what both can and can`t . "Mike Williams" <Mike(a)WhiskyAndCoke.com> schreef in bericht news:OQxNeWsoKHA.5520(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <msdn(a)posseth.com> wrote in message > news:4E849C16-77E4-4F66-BD1F-4A62CF34C157(a)microsoft.com... > >> Michel Posseth [MCP] >> That guy that can code and is certified in VB >> and the imposter as you call it i believe :-) > > That guy who can code? So you think you're the only one do you? > > Mike > >
From: Mike Williams on 1 Feb 2010 04:08 "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <msdn(a)posseth.com> wrote in message news:7935E388-59ED-4F3C-BB3F-122556F50480(a)microsoft.com... > No , but i do believe i am one of the few VB6 coders who > can code reall VB6 and reall VB.Net code and knows > what both can and can`t . So there are only a very small number of people in the world who can code in VB.Net and who have also coded in VB6, and you're one of them? That's very clever of you. All those other less able people, especially those less able people on the VB.Net group, must be very gad you're there to lead them otherwise they would be wandering around like headless chickens. They must be so proud of you. Mike
From: Larry Serflaten on 1 Feb 2010 08:45 "Searcher7" <Searcher7(a)mail.con2.com> wrote > So I'm now back to trying to figure out what to study first. Are there > any good *free* VB languages(downloads) that I should start with? If you are just now starting to learn a programming language, and are serious about learning to program (for the next several years) then I would advise you to start with C# and not VB. I started programming back in 1982, but got into programming for Windows about 1995 using VB3. I enjoyed VB very much and got pretty good at it (MS MVP 2004 -2008) but I just don't see the fun in VB.Nxt anymore. I tried it early on (2000-2002) and have a copy of Visual Studio 2005 & 2008, but for me the excitement has gone with the advent of the .Net platform. Its just more work than fun, than it used to be.... None the less, you can get started for free using MS's Express versions (limited versions of the full fledged languages) and using C# puts you inline for transitioning to other languages (esp. Java, C types, et al.) when the time comes. The way I see it, unless you already know VB, there are very few good reasons to start learning (dotnet) programming with that language. At the end of the day, every (dotnet) language they have has to deal with the Common Language Runtime (CLR) and its framework of classes. Its the mastery of that framework that you'll find takes the most work, no matter what language you opt to try.... Have a look for yourself... http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vcsharp/default.aspx LFS
From: Ralph on 1 Feb 2010 08:53 Mike Williams wrote: > "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <msdn(a)posseth.com> wrote in message > news:7935E388-59ED-4F3C-BB3F-122556F50480(a)microsoft.com... > >> No , but i do believe i am one of the few VB6 coders who >> can code reall VB6 and reall VB.Net code and knows >> what both can and can`t . > > So there are only a very small number of people in the world who can > code in VB.Net and who have also coded in VB6, and you're one of > them? That's very clever of you. All those other less able people, > especially those less able people on the VB.Net group, must be very > gad you're there to lead them otherwise they would be wandering > around like headless chickens. They must be so proud of you. > I was a tad offended at first, but then I noticed he qualified his statement with "reall". I'm not sure I have ever written any reall VB6 or reall VB.Net code. so by my very uncertainity, he is probably correct. -ralph
From: Ralph on 1 Feb 2010 09:30
Searcher7 wrote: > > I had run into a roadblock while studying assembly.(It was the book's > fault, not mine). I decided to look for an easier language to learn, > and one of the books I picked up and started reading is "Absolute > Beginner's Guide to Programming" (Third edition). By QUE(Greg Perry). > BASIC is definitely a good 'Beginner's' language - it's in its name. <g> It has a simple syntax, is easy to learn, run, and debug. MS's version in the VB product ("Visual Basic Windows Development") would have been my recommendation. Unfortunately it has been discontinued by MS, copies are hard to come by, and never free. In fact VS6/VB6 continue to retail for prices near what they sold for intially. (A definite testimony to its popularity.) There are other 'free' BASICS out there. Taking MS up on their 'free' Express versions for the new .Net Framework development is also a good option. Though I would agree with Larry. If you have to learn something new then I would skip VB.Net. But then there is also my favorite, which is a lousy *First* language for someone totally new, but may be an option for someone with the nerve to take on Assembly. <g> That is C/C++. (You can download the MS VC++ Express version - for a 'free' compiler). You don't have to jump into the .Net Framework. You can use the Windows SDK, or start out writing simple console applications. There are tons of "C" books available. -ralph |