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From: Ralph on 2 Feb 2010 01:57 Searcher7 wrote: <snipped> > >>> Perhaps I should go back to Assembly. I know hardware is more >>> complicated, but is it really more difficult to learn the needed >>> basic machine code instruction set, OS I/O functions, and addresses/ >>> functions of the peripheral registers? >> >> Yes. Compared to any high-level language Assembly is going to be >> "more difficult" by any standard you wish to employ. It takes more >> lines of code (more debugging, more room for errors). It is harder >> to find information. It takes longer to write. There are fewer tools. > > I didn't mean in comparison to high level languages. I mean Assembly > today compared to the Assembly of "yesterday". > That is hard to answer. Modern processors, chipsets, devices, ... , are more complex. So can you write more complex Assembly than "yesterday" - yes. Can you still write a "Hello World" using limited instructions - yes. > > To clarify my meaning, when I said simple apps I meant will it be just > as easy to grasp Assembly and write a specific app as it was to grasp > Assembly and write the same app years ago when Assembly was popular? > Sure. > (From what I've read VB in the book so far does seem kind of limited > for what I want to do). > Sounds like it. -ralph
From: Michel Posseth [MCP] on 2 Feb 2010 02:33 yep Sociopath Thought so ,,, so i will now gracefully step out of this thread as with crazy people you can`t argue they even forget what it was all about as i have never chosen sides i love VB6 as much as i love VB.Net i see both there strengths and weaknesses . In a lot of the threads you step in i even can see your point , however what you now do to me is plain sick ( you have some loose wires ) this makes me wonder if all your other "victims" .......... where not just like me . I called you a genius before but i have now the proof that geniusly and madness are really on a thin line , i feel now sorry for you Regards Michel "Mike Williams" <Mike(a)WhiskyAndCoke.com> schreef in bericht news:efU9rC5oKHA.4836(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <msdn(a)posseth.com> wrote in message > news:62B95249-AB87-40E4-AAA0-BF0F9E14E9DA(a)microsoft.com... > >> Are you dragging me in a flame war !, may i ask why ? >> are you really such a sociopath that you can`t even >> recognize a positive comment on your behalf ? > > I probably forgot to include: > > Imports.System.DataCollection.InputDevice.VideoData.WrittenInput.Redirect.LocalStimuli.VisualCortex.ProcessingDevic > e.Cerebral.Globalization.CultureInfo.CurrentCulture.Language.Cognitive > > Mike > > >
From: Mike Williams on 2 Feb 2010 05:39 "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <msdn(a)posseth.com> wrote in message news:79B2DA88-1C1F-4F92-BE8E-6B68CBA1C383(a)microsoft.com... > yep Sociopath Thought so ,,, so i will now > gracefully step out of this thread as with crazy > people you can`t argue Calling someone a sociopath and labelling him as crazy and actually posting those comments here on the group is not being "graceful", Michelle, and neither is it "stepping out of the thread". Stop lying to yourself. > In a lot of the threads you step in i even can see your > point, however what you now do to me is plain sick > ( you have some loose wires ) There you go again, Michelle. Hardly "graceful". I am not doing anything to you. I have never accused you of being a sick sociopath, nor of being crazy, nor of having "some loose wires". Can you not step back a little and see yourself as you really are? Perhaps then you will not get so offended when somebody retaliates against one of your attacks? > they even forget what it was all about as i have > never chosen sides i love VB6 as much as i love > VB.Net i see both there strengths and weaknesses. I don't know who "they" are, Michelle? Presumably you are addressing your "Crazy sick sociopath with loose wires" accusation to other people as well? Or is inserting the word "they" perhaps merely a sign of paranoia? The tone of my response was nothing to do with whether you like VB6 or not. I responded in the way I did because I took offence at the way you shoved your MCP qualification down my throat and implied that I cannot code, as you did when you signed yourself off in the following manner: Michel Posseth [MCP] That guy that can code and is certified in VB and the imposter as you call it i believe The little smiley against it did nothing to dilute its content. I could of course have simply misinterpreted what you said, but I decided that I had not done so when you then posted further comments making your position quite clear by saying that you are yourself /one of the few/ VB6 coders who can code in VB6 and in VB.Nxt. I think you have delusions of grandeur, Michelle. It is not just me being a little "touchy" because there is at least one other person who has posted an indication that he was offended by your comments. Statements to the effect that you are /one of the few/ people who can code in VB6 and VB.Nxt do not really bother me too much because I don't code in VB.Nxt myself (although I expect it might bother the thousands of other peple who can also code in both languages). What bothered me was the part where you shoved your MCP qualification down my throat and said, "That guy that can code and is certified in VB6". That /did/ bother me, Michelle. I can code, and I take offence at your suggestion that I cannot. I realise that there is a language barrier at work here and if I have totally misinterpreted your various statements then I apologise for retaliating, but at the moment I think not. And, of course, notwithstanding the outcome of any reinterpretation of your comments about my coding abilty, I think I shall remain a little bit "miffed" about your accusation that I am a crazy sick sociopath with loose wires. > I called you a genius before but i have now the > proof that geniusly and madness are really on > a thin line , i feel now sorry for you I'm not sure whether to take that as an insult or a compliment, Michelle, but I am in a conciliatory mood at the moment and so I think I'll go for compliment. I might even stop calling you Michelle :-) Mike
From: dpb on 2 Feb 2010 10:54 Searcher7 wrote: .... > To clarify my meaning, when I said simple apps I meant will it be just > as easy to grasp Assembly and write a specific app as it was to grasp > Assembly and write the same app years ago when Assembly was popular? Depends...what processor? I modern processor isn't anything at all like a 6809, 6502 or Z80 and if you're talking about writing for a recent OS interacting nicely w/ it isn't the same, either. What would your definition of "simple" look like? > (From what I've read VB in the book so far does seem kind of limited > for what I want to do). What do you want to do? And, on another point, if you don't want to be tied to Windows, there are quite a number of other languages w/ published Standards such that compilers are capable of taking the base language from any and at least compiling it on another platform. That there are significant issues still in terms of OS and possibly hardware is another topic of quite large proportions. C/C++, Fortran, ADA, ... the list goes on. What the objective is is the key and there's certainly nothing specific enough in this thread as yet to make any recommendation meaningful. --
From: dgk on 2 Feb 2010 12:17
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:54:56 -0600, dpb <none(a)non.net> wrote: >Searcher7 wrote: >... > >> To clarify my meaning, when I said simple apps I meant will it be just >> as easy to grasp Assembly and write a specific app as it was to grasp >> Assembly and write the same app years ago when Assembly was popular? > >Depends...what processor? I modern processor isn't anything at all like >a 6809, 6502 or Z80 and if you're talking about writing for a recent OS >interacting nicely w/ it isn't the same, either. Not to mention targeting a single processor in a dual/quad/etc system. |