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From: Mike Williams on 1 Feb 2010 10:45 "Ralph" <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OnuAsu0oKHA.5520(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > But then there is also my favorite, which is a lousy *First* > language for someone totally new, but may be an option > for someone with the nerve to take on Assembly. <g> Assembly was once my favourite as well. Times have changed now of course and hardware and operating systems are much more complex than they were, but when I first started programming I found that machine code, initially without the help of an Assembler and later with one, was just about the simplest thing to deal with. I liked it on the grounds that it was very fast and that once you had learned the basic machine code instruction set you needed knowledge only of the operating system I/O functions and of the addresses and functions of the various video and audio and other hardware registers (there were far fewer of them of course in those days!). As far as the actual coding was concerned you lived mostly by your own rules, and were not required to either remember or to follow somebody else's. I actually started with BASIC simply because a copy of it was built into the operating system and I soon realised that (at least in those days of extremely slow interpreted BASIC) it simply was not fast enough to do very much in real time and so I bought a book on Assembly and I loved it. In fact one of the very first really useful things I wrote in BASIC was a simple 6502 Assembler, which worked very well and which made it very much easier for me to write my code. I was actually an engineer by trade, not a programmer, and electronics was my only real hobby at the time, so I never paid as much attention to my programming side-hobby as I perhaps should have done, but if I had been a programmer by trade at the time I'm sure I would have stuck with Assembler. In the end I let it go and concentrated almost totally on my main hobby in electronics. It was many years later that I went back to programming as a hobby. Too late for me now of course to move into Assembler again, operating systems and hardware are vastly more complex than they were and I am far too long in the tooth to begin learning their intricacies, so Assembler is out for me and I'll stick to my favourite VB6 until it finally gets ground into the dusts of time, by which time I will almost certainly be in there with it ;-) Mike
From: Michel Posseth [MCP] on 1 Feb 2010 11:32 Hmm I never looked at it from that perspective but..... i guess you might be right so you might also include the vb classic group then ;-) Are you now done roisterer? , you know exactly what i mean "Mike Williams" <Mike(a)WhiskyAndCoke.com> schreef in bericht news:OTiOS4xoKHA.3792(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <msdn(a)posseth.com> wrote in message > news:7935E388-59ED-4F3C-BB3F-122556F50480(a)microsoft.com... > >> No , but i do believe i am one of the few VB6 coders who >> can code reall VB6 and reall VB.Net code and knows >> what both can and can`t . > > So there are only a very small number of people in the world who can code > in VB.Net and who have also coded in VB6, and you're one of them? That's > very clever of you. All those other less able people, especially those > less able people on the VB.Net group, must be very gad you're there to > lead them otherwise they would be wandering around like headless chickens. > They must be so proud of you. > > Mike > > >
From: Mike Williams on 1 Feb 2010 13:30 "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <msdn(a)posseth.com> wrote in message news:461EFCB4-38B5-4E6A-8059-AB1D4C51490E(a)microsoft.com... > Hmm I never looked at it from that perspective but..... i guess you might > be right so you might also include > the vb classic group then Please elucidate. > Are you now done roisterer? , you know exactly > what i mean I'm afraid I don't know exactly what you mean, Michelle. I know what roisterer means of course, and it applies most aptly to your own behaviour when you swaggered about telling the people on the newgsroup the uproarious lie that you are /one of the few people/ who can actually code in VB6 and in VB.Net. However your qualifying phrase, "you know exactly what I mean", would seem to indicate that you actually mean something other than the standard dictionary definition. So, once again Michelle, please elucidate. Mike
From: Larry Serflaten on 1 Feb 2010 13:46 "Mike Williams" <Mike(a)WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote > Assembly was once my favourite as well. Times have changed now of course <....> > once you had learned the basic machine code instruction set you > needed knowledge only of the operating system I/O functions and of the > addresses and functions of the various video and audio and other hardware > registers <...> > In fact one of the very first really useful things I wrote in BASIC was a > simple 6502 Assembler I take it you owned a Commodore then? It was all much easier to comprehend and understand when the OS, DOS, your program and any language interpreter all had to reside within a 64K memory limit! An assembler and comprehensive memory map were the tools of the trade.... (eg: http://www.atariarchives.org/mapping/memorymap.php) <g> LFS
From: C. Kevin Provance on 1 Feb 2010 14:45
"Mike Williams" <Mike(a)WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote in message news:%23nQZXy2oKHA.3948(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | | > Hmm I never looked at it from that perspective but..... i guess you might | > be right so you might also include | > the vb classic group then | | Please elucidate. You can't use big words with the .Nxtheads. They've been dumbed down to the point where you'll have to start using little words. Don't forget to including the dots so intellisense can guide them. <g> |