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From: Phil Hobbs on 23 Feb 2010 19:42 On 2/23/2010 7:13 PM, Frank Buss wrote: > Martin Riddle wrote: > >> Get the Microchip ICD2. It will allow you to step thru code as a >> emulator would. > > This is expensive and Microchip recommends ICD3. I think it has some nice > features like real time debugging, but you'll need such features nearly > never and then for bigger projects, only. Of course, when you need it for > difficult problems, you really need it :-) Standard debugging with break > points and single step is possible with PICkit2, too. > The only thing I really miss with the PICkit2 is watchpoints. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
From: Dave Platt on 23 Feb 2010 19:37 In article <1uni4qzi3ptk2$.lrd78bvmzmkk$.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Frank Buss <fb(a)frank-buss.de> wrote: >I can recommend PICkit 2, works without problems for me. Some time ago >there were problems reported for PICkit 3, but maybe they have fixed it >meanwhile. I'm still hearing people griping about the PICkit 3 - quality control problems with the boards, is what it sounds like. Last year I bought a PICKit 2 clone, and a "universal programmer board", from a Chinese vendor on eBay (seller name "sureelectronics2"). The programmer appears to be a near-exact clone of the original, and is presumably based on the design that Microchip published. I've only used it briefly (first time was last week, in fact) but it worked out fine... programmed an 18F2220 on the first attempt, and the chip works in the circuit. I've used it with some open-source programming tools, released on the Microchip website. The clone was "seen" by the software, I was able to upgrade it to the latest PICkit 2 firmware from Microchip and program an identifying name into it, and haven't had any difficulty using it. The "Universal programmer board" has three ZIF sockets for various groups of PIC processors, and connects to one of the cables provided with the PICkit 2 clone. -- Dave Platt <dplatt(a)radagast.org> AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!
From: David L. Jones on 23 Feb 2010 20:37 coldfeet wrote: > Hi, > > I am thinking about buying or building a PIC programmer and would > appreciate some advice in choosing one. I've never laid hands on one > so am I not sure what to look for. > > I am a hobbyist and would like to program the occasional IC just to > simplify my circuit building. It would be nice to program a wide > variety if chips but in reality I would probably just pick a few that > I was comfortable with and stick to them. My programming skills > aren't all that great. I'm comfortable with editing VB script or > using graphical programs. If I have to I could probably learn basic > or c. The less code I have to write the better. I would like to keep > the price tag under $60. I've read that it's best to get one that can > be debugged in place so that would probably be good too. > > Anyone have any ideas which programmer might be best for someone like > me? See: http://www.eevblog.com/2010/02/22/eevblog-63-microchip-pic-vs-atmel-avr/ Get the PICkit2 or PICkit3, don't touch the build-it-yourself programmers, they are not worth the trouble. But it sounds like you are talking about microcontrollers in general, not just PIC. In which case the PICAXE orArduino are worth considering: http://www.eevblog.com/2009/11/21/eevblog-45-arduino-picaxe-and-idiot-assembler-programmers/ PICAXE doesn't even need code, you can program them using flowcharts if you want. Dave. -- ================================================ Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: http://www.eevblog.com
From: Robert Baer on 24 Feb 2010 00:46 coldfeet wrote: > Hi, > > I am thinking about buying or building a PIC programmer and would > appreciate some advice in choosing one. I've never laid hands on one > so am I not sure what to look for. > > I am a hobbyist and would like to program the occasional IC just to > simplify my circuit building. It would be nice to program a wide > variety if chips but in reality I would probably just pick a few that > I was comfortable with and stick to them. My programming skills > aren't all that great. I'm comfortable with editing VB script or > using graphical programs. If I have to I could probably learn basic > or c. The less code I have to write the better. I would like to keep > the price tag under $60. I've read that it's best to get one that can > be debugged in place so that would probably be good too. > > Anyone have any ideas which programmer might be best for someone like > me? > > TIA Sorry i cannot help now; i gave away my spare PIC-2 to someone in England.
From: Somebody on 24 Feb 2010 03:19
"coldfeet" <sixcoldfeet(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:d3d2b24a-baf2-4aff-a1d3-554fd9a89b99(a)33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > I am thinking about buying or building a PIC programmer and would > appreciate some advice in choosing one. I've never laid hands on one > so am I not sure what to look for. Get a PICKit2, but make sure that yours has a red pushbutton and not a black pushbutton, otherwise the single step (or single breakpoint, you only have one or the other) won't work for you unless you fit two 4K7 resistors onto the target board. |