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From: Phil Hobbs on 24 Feb 2010 09:02 On 2/24/2010 6:34 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a cloudy miserable winter ice day "David L. Jokes" wrote: > >> Get the PICkit2 or PICkit3, don't touch the build-it-yourself programmers, >> they are not worth the trouble. > > HEY IDIOT YOU ONLY NEED 1 RESISTOR: > http://home.earthlink.net/~davesullins/software/pic18f.html > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA > LOL > > WHOOOOOOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > LOL > ahahha > jippi!!! > > fun fun fun. > Save a couple of dollars. > LOL Visiting downtown Amsterdam again, eh, Jan? Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
From: Jan Panteltje on 24 Feb 2010 11:16 On a sunny day (Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:16:55 +0000) it happened Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in <RM8hn.10115$ND2.304(a)newsfe05.iad>: >Jan Panteltje wrote: >> On a cloudy miserable winter ice day "David L. Jokes" wrote: >> >>> Get the PICkit2 or PICkit3, don't touch the build-it-yourself programmers, >>> they are not worth the trouble. > >For a hobbyist I'd have thought a kit might be ideal. The suggestion >below is a bit too minimalist and unsafe for my liking. YMMV >> >> HEY IDIOT YOU ONLY NEED 1 RESISTOR: >> http://home.earthlink.net/~davesullins/software/pic18f.html > >Provided that you don't mind the risk of damage to your parallel port. >The design is totally unbuffered, voltage dependent and may not work, >and some of the suggestions there are likely to wreck a PIO if used by >the unwary. Unwary should not program PICs. >Older chips also want a higher programming voltage applied. But there >are cheap DIY PIC programmer kits for hobbyists about. Indeed: http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/jppp18/index.html >It is quite cute to make designs fully in circuit programmable. Doing that puts restrictions on I/O pins. Low voltage programming sucks up an other I/O pin. That is why I use high voltage programming only. And leave the low voltage stuff to the unwary :-) >Regards, >Martin Brown Now life on Enceladus? Should be easy to do a sample return, not much gravity. Bring some bugs over here:-)
From: coldfeet on 24 Feb 2010 18:26 Hey, thanks for all the info. Yes, I did mean any micro controller. I guess PIC was the first one I learned about. The Arduino looks pretty cool but I am leaning towards the PICkit 2. I may have to pick up the Arduino just to play with. The PICaxe also looks good but I think I would have a hard time deciding what exactly to buy. The PICkit 2 looks like it comes in an "everything I need" package. Also, special thanks to David for the vblogs even though it was 90% rant. It helps to see someone hold up the product and talk about it. It would have been really great if you had demonstrated the products for us. I know it would probably seem inane but seeing someone plug one in, write a short program, display the interface, etc. would probably answer a lot of questions that I hadn't thought to ask.
From: David L. Jones on 24 Feb 2010 20:45 Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a cloudy miserable winter ice day "David L. Jokes" wrote: Silly childish name changing noted. >> Get the PICkit2 or PICkit3, don't touch the build-it-yourself >> programmers, they are not worth the trouble. > > HEY IDIOT YOU ONLY NEED 1 RESISTOR: > http://home.earthlink.net/~davesullins/software/pic18f.html > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA > LOL > > WHOOOOOOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > LOL > ahahha > jippi!!! > > fun fun fun. > Save a couple of dollars. > LOL Hey Superjan, I'd suggest you try some more of that meditation: http://panteltje.com/panteltje/superjan/index.html Regards Dave. -- ================================================ Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: http://www.eevblog.com
From: David L. Jones on 24 Feb 2010 20:49
coldfeet wrote: > Hey, thanks for all the info. Yes, I did mean any micro controller. > I guess PIC was the first one I learned about. The Arduino looks > pretty cool but I am leaning towards the PICkit 2. I may have to pick > up the Arduino just to play with. The PICaxe also looks good but I > think I would have a hard time deciding what exactly to buy. The > PICkit 2 looks like it comes in an "everything I need" package. > > Also, special thanks to David for the vblogs even though it was 90% > rant. It helps to see someone hold up the product and talk about it. > It would have been really great if you had demonstrated the products > for us. I know it would probably seem inane but seeing someone plug > one in, write a short program, display the interface, etc. would > probably answer a lot of questions that I hadn't thought to ask. I'm sure if you search Youtube or other places you'll find plenty of practical videos on using the PICkit. Dave. -- ================================================ Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: http://www.eevblog.com |