From: Phil Hobbs on
On 2/24/2010 6:34 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a cloudy miserable winter ice day "David L. Jokes" wrote:
>
>> Get the PICkit2 or PICkit3, don't touch the build-it-yourself programmers,
>> they are not worth the trouble.
>
> HEY IDIOT YOU ONLY NEED 1 RESISTOR:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~davesullins/software/pic18f.html
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> LOL
>
> WHOOOOOOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> LOL
> ahahha
> jippi!!!
>
> fun fun fun.
> Save a couple of dollars.
> LOL


Visiting downtown Amsterdam again, eh, Jan?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


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From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:16:55 +0000) it happened Martin Brown
<|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in
<RM8hn.10115$ND2.304(a)newsfe05.iad>:

>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a cloudy miserable winter ice day "David L. Jokes" wrote:
>>
>>> Get the PICkit2 or PICkit3, don't touch the build-it-yourself programmers,
>>> they are not worth the trouble.
>
>For a hobbyist I'd have thought a kit might be ideal. The suggestion
>below is a bit too minimalist and unsafe for my liking. YMMV
>>
>> HEY IDIOT YOU ONLY NEED 1 RESISTOR:
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~davesullins/software/pic18f.html
>
>Provided that you don't mind the risk of damage to your parallel port.
>The design is totally unbuffered, voltage dependent and may not work,
>and some of the suggestions there are likely to wreck a PIO if used by
>the unwary.

Unwary should not program PICs.


>Older chips also want a higher programming voltage applied. But there
>are cheap DIY PIC programmer kits for hobbyists about.

Indeed:
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/jppp18/index.html


>It is quite cute to make designs fully in circuit programmable.

Doing that puts restrictions on I/O pins.
Low voltage programming sucks up an other I/O pin.
That is why I use high voltage programming only.
And leave the low voltage stuff to the unwary :-)


>Regards,
>Martin Brown

Now life on Enceladus?
Should be easy to do a sample return, not much gravity.
Bring some bugs over here:-)
From: coldfeet on
Hey, thanks for all the info. Yes, I did mean any micro controller.
I guess PIC was the first one I learned about. The Arduino looks
pretty cool but I am leaning towards the PICkit 2. I may have to pick
up the Arduino just to play with. The PICaxe also looks good but I
think I would have a hard time deciding what exactly to buy. The
PICkit 2 looks like it comes in an "everything I need" package.

Also, special thanks to David for the vblogs even though it was 90%
rant. It helps to see someone hold up the product and talk about it.
It would have been really great if you had demonstrated the products
for us. I know it would probably seem inane but seeing someone plug
one in, write a short program, display the interface, etc. would
probably answer a lot of questions that I hadn't thought to ask.
From: David L. Jones on
Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a cloudy miserable winter ice day "David L. Jokes" wrote:

Silly childish name changing noted.

>> Get the PICkit2 or PICkit3, don't touch the build-it-yourself
>> programmers, they are not worth the trouble.
>
> HEY IDIOT YOU ONLY NEED 1 RESISTOR:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~davesullins/software/pic18f.html
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> LOL
>
> WHOOOOOOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> LOL
> ahahha
> jippi!!!
>
> fun fun fun.
> Save a couple of dollars.
> LOL

Hey Superjan, I'd suggest you try some more of that meditation:
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/superjan/index.html

Regards
Dave.

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From: David L. Jones on
coldfeet wrote:
> Hey, thanks for all the info. Yes, I did mean any micro controller.
> I guess PIC was the first one I learned about. The Arduino looks
> pretty cool but I am leaning towards the PICkit 2. I may have to pick
> up the Arduino just to play with. The PICaxe also looks good but I
> think I would have a hard time deciding what exactly to buy. The
> PICkit 2 looks like it comes in an "everything I need" package.
>
> Also, special thanks to David for the vblogs even though it was 90%
> rant. It helps to see someone hold up the product and talk about it.
> It would have been really great if you had demonstrated the products
> for us. I know it would probably seem inane but seeing someone plug
> one in, write a short program, display the interface, etc. would
> probably answer a lot of questions that I hadn't thought to ask.

I'm sure if you search Youtube or other places you'll find plenty of
practical videos on using the PICkit.

Dave.

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