From: Charlie E. on
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:01:15 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Charlie E. wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 10:17:50 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>> Hot dog?
>>>>
>>> Yesterday in the news they said that Americans consume 150 million (!)
>>> hot dogs on Independence Day. Put side by side that's suposedly five
>>> times the distance L.A.-N.Y. The number per capita per year was given in
>>> packages ...
>>>
>>> Amazing. I guess the market for all the cardiology gear I did designs on
>>> is going to be fabulous.
>>>
>>> The weather guys can often be way off. For example this lists 80F right
>>> now but it's already 88F inside the office and over 90F outside:
>>>
>>> http://www.weather.com/weather/today/Shingle+Springs+CA+95682?lswe=95682&from=searchbox_localwx
>>>
>>> They should open up a window and look ...
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> Well, we just had OUT share of hot dogs, Ballpark bun length, cooked
>> on the grill until they split... ;-)
>>
>> In the office, it is only 85, but outside it is already over 100. The
>> little evaporative cooler we bought back on Memorial Day is keeping
>> the inside of the house at a not-too-bad temp. We will turn the AC
>> on around 3 or so...
>>
>
>Got a link for that cooler? All the ones I saw so far were big ugly
>thinks that need more than the usual 12" center breakthrough, and even
>come sans motor.

Hi Joerg,
I just picked this one up at the local hardware store for $99. It is
about 30" tall, and 24" wide. You fill it through a little hatch on
the side. Out here, a fillup will only last about four hours, as it
only holds about three gallons of water. It rolls around pretty
easily though. Only problem I have is that it sorta 'spits' out the
back where the pump dumps the water to go onto the pad, so I put a
little bowl back there to catch it.

You just have to remember that, it needs to be in a dry area, with
good ventilation, and aimed into the area where you want it to cool.
In our case, I put it in our living room near the front door, and aim
it down the hallway where Pam and my offices are. We leave windows
open in the living room and breakfast nook, and I open the window in
my office (at the far end of the house) a crack. Our winds will keep
the living room area warm and dry, and help blow the cool air all the
way to my office.

Charlie
From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:43:44 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Damon Hill wrote:
>> Here in the Pacific Northwet, it's struggling to get into the
>> 60s and sunshine has been a scarce commodity so far this year.
>> That's supposed to change in a big way in a few days--summer
>> at last! There's still over five feet of snow on the ground
>> at Paradise on Mt. Rainier. (Actually, it's compressed slush.)
>>
>> http://www.cascadeclimber.com/web_cams.htm
>>
>> This time last year we were in the upper 90s and set an all-time
>> record high of 102F. So I'm not complaining.
>>
>> I rather like Hebrew Nation brand dogs, but the best hot dog I ever
>> had were Kominski Park.
>>
>
>I ate the very best burger I ever had while on a long drive on Saturday.
>If you ever have to do the whole I-5 stretch, it's the Black Bear Diner
>in Willows (between Redding and Sacramento). Li'l mom and pop place,
>very small village, everyone seemed to know everyone else there. $7.99,
>still drooling ...

I80 yesterday: we left Truckee at 5PM. It peaked at 103F in Roseville,
down to 56 in San Francisco. Approaching the Bay, the gradient exceeds
1 degree F per mile.

There's still snow on the hills up there. Boreal will be open for
skiing next weekend.

John

From: Jim Thompson on
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:00:38 -0700, Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org>
wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:01:15 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>Charlie E. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 10:17:50 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>> Hot dog?
>>>>>
>>>> Yesterday in the news they said that Americans consume 150 million (!)
>>>> hot dogs on Independence Day. Put side by side that's suposedly five
>>>> times the distance L.A.-N.Y. The number per capita per year was given in
>>>> packages ...
>>>>
>>>> Amazing. I guess the market for all the cardiology gear I did designs on
>>>> is going to be fabulous.
>>>>
>>>> The weather guys can often be way off. For example this lists 80F right
>>>> now but it's already 88F inside the office and over 90F outside:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.weather.com/weather/today/Shingle+Springs+CA+95682?lswe=95682&from=searchbox_localwx
>>>>
>>>> They should open up a window and look ...
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Well, we just had OUT share of hot dogs, Ballpark bun length, cooked
>>> on the grill until they split... ;-)
>>>
>>> In the office, it is only 85, but outside it is already over 100. The
>>> little evaporative cooler we bought back on Memorial Day is keeping
>>> the inside of the house at a not-too-bad temp. We will turn the AC
>>> on around 3 or so...
>>>
>>
>>Got a link for that cooler? All the ones I saw so far were big ugly
>>thinks that need more than the usual 12" center breakthrough, and even
>>come sans motor.
>
>Hi Joerg,
>I just picked this one up at the local hardware store for $99. It is
>about 30" tall, and 24" wide. You fill it through a little hatch on
>the side. Out here, a fillup will only last about four hours, as it
>only holds about three gallons of water. It rolls around pretty
>easily though. Only problem I have is that it sorta 'spits' out the
>back where the pump dumps the water to go onto the pad, so I put a
>little bowl back there to catch it.
>
>You just have to remember that, it needs to be in a dry area, with
>good ventilation, and aimed into the area where you want it to cool.
>In our case, I put it in our living room near the front door, and aim
>it down the hallway where Pam and my offices are. We leave windows
>open in the living room and breakfast nook, and I open the window in
>my office (at the far end of the house) a crack. Our winds will keep
>the living room area warm and dry, and help blow the cool air all the
>way to my office.
>
>Charlie

How much extra load is that added humidity on the A/C ?:-)

On the old house I had a 6500CFM "evap cooler" that I'd run until late
June, then switch to A/C, but I never did morning/evening.

...Jim Thompson
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From: Charlie E. on
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:38:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:00:38 -0700, Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:01:15 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>wrote:
<snip>
>>>
>>>Got a link for that cooler? All the ones I saw so far were big ugly
>>>thinks that need more than the usual 12" center breakthrough, and even
>>>come sans motor.
>>
>>Hi Joerg,
>>I just picked this one up at the local hardware store for $99. It is
>>about 30" tall, and 24" wide. You fill it through a little hatch on
>>the side. Out here, a fillup will only last about four hours, as it
>>only holds about three gallons of water. It rolls around pretty
>>easily though. Only problem I have is that it sorta 'spits' out the
>>back where the pump dumps the water to go onto the pad, so I put a
>>little bowl back there to catch it.
>>
>>You just have to remember that, it needs to be in a dry area, with
>>good ventilation, and aimed into the area where you want it to cool.
>>In our case, I put it in our living room near the front door, and aim
>>it down the hallway where Pam and my offices are. We leave windows
>>open in the living room and breakfast nook, and I open the window in
>>my office (at the far end of the house) a crack. Our winds will keep
>>the living room area warm and dry, and help blow the cool air all the
>>way to my office.
>>
>>Charlie
>
>How much extra load is that added humidity on the A/C ?:-)
>
>On the old house I had a 6500CFM "evap cooler" that I'd run until late
>June, then switch to A/C, but I never did morning/evening.
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Hi Jim,
Not that much, really. Since it is so dry here, I think that even
with the thing running it doesn't increase the humidity in the house
by more than 20-30%. Pam actually like the fact that it isn't so dry
in here all the time now. It takes about an hour after we switch the
AC on to get it down to temp, say from 85 to 79. The only real
problem we saw at first was the living room. Since it was probably up
in the 90's when we start, it took several hours to really cool down.
Our solution now is to leave the fan on the cooler running, and aim it
into the living area. That seems to get the cooling now into the same
hour time frame as the rest of the house.

Charlie
From: Richard Henry on
On Jul 5, 2:55 pm, ehsjr <eh...(a)nospamverizon.net> wrote:
> Jim Thompson wrote:
> > Hot dog?
>
> >http://www.accuweather.com/us/ny/new-york/10017/city-weather-forecast...
>
> > or...
>
> >http://www.accuweather.com/us/ma/boston/02101/city-weather-forecast.asp
>
> > but we'll hardly notice...
>
> >http://www.accuweather.com/us/az/phoenix/85001/city-weather-forecast.asp
>
> > today :-)
>
> >                                         ...Jim Thompson
>
> Well, my wireless thermometers got to 112 and 108 today at
> the peak - and they read 103 and 97.9 right now (5:47 pm).
> So it is warm in NY.
>
> Ed

And it's a wet heat.