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From: Joerg on 6 Jul 2010 18:38 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:20:16 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Jim Thompson wrote: > [snip] >>> Block, or timber construction? >>> >> Timber. >> >> >>> I used a jack to hold up a row of blocks, inserted a steel "T-beam", >>> then added ductwork from there thru a clothes closet to the furnace/AC >>> closet. >>> >> Ain't that easy here. Just about every wall is windows, or chimney, or >> some other functional type. The only places where there would be cutting >> opportunity is from two different attics into the hallway and into the >> living room. But having a swamp cooler in there with the occasional >> standing water will attract rodents, and pronto. Don't want those in there. > > Standing water ?? The only "water" would be in the swamp cooler, and > that's external to the house. > That would require the thing to be on the roof and I won't do that. Looks ugly and very tough to anchor for the high winds here. We have a metal roof on a batten system, not geared for such loads. >> >>> Then enclosed the clothes closet ductwork with plywood, and carpeted >>> it. Looked like it was done originally like that... as a raised shoe >>> shelf ;-) >>> >> The walk-in closets are another oppportunity but it would just blow into >> clothes, not the living room. And SWMBO wouldn't like that anyhow. > > You don't have supply yards, like we do around here, where you can buy > pre-formed ductwork, and all the sheet-metal fittings to tie it all > together? > > Actually I had three custom pieces made... adapter from cooler to > 30"x8" duct, 6'x30"x8" duct, and adapter from there thru the "cut-off > slide" into the house ductwork. > Oh, I can either buy that or bend it myself. But it's not really possible, those walk-ins are tiny, it is a 40 year old house. Well, Europeans would say I am out of my mind calling those tiny but ... What I really don't understand is why there is nearly zero innovation in this business. They are still sloshing a felt belt around or dripping water on some sort of Aspen concoction. I mean, ultrasonic misters aren't exactly new, why don't they use stuff like that? I bet one could design a slick very flat unit around that, not those ugly big boxes. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: krw on 6 Jul 2010 19:27 On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:09:05 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:43:44 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >wrote: > >>Damon Hill wrote: >>> Here in the Pacific Northwet, it's struggling to get into the >>> 60s and sunshine has been a scarce commodity so far this year. >>> That's supposed to change in a big way in a few days--summer >>> at last! There's still over five feet of snow on the ground >>> at Paradise on Mt. Rainier. (Actually, it's compressed slush.) >>> >>> http://www.cascadeclimber.com/web_cams.htm >>> >>> This time last year we were in the upper 90s and set an all-time >>> record high of 102F. So I'm not complaining. >>> >>> I rather like Hebrew Nation brand dogs, but the best hot dog I ever >>> had were Kominski Park. >>> >> >>I ate the very best burger I ever had while on a long drive on Saturday. >>If you ever have to do the whole I-5 stretch, it's the Black Bear Diner >>in Willows (between Redding and Sacramento). Li'l mom and pop place, >>very small village, everyone seemed to know everyone else there. $7.99, >>still drooling ... > >I80 yesterday: we left Truckee at 5PM. It peaked at 103F in Roseville, >down to 56 in San Francisco. Approaching the Bay, the gradient exceeds >1 degree F per mile. What's the gradient? At a 6% grade, the adiabatic lapse rate is about 1-3/4 degree F per mile. ;-) >There's still snow on the hills up there. Boreal will be open for >skiing next weekend. It's been absolutely beautiful here for the past for or five days. It's in the high 80s to low 90s and dry, which is *not* normal here.
From: Joerg on 6 Jul 2010 20:53 krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: > On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:09:05 -0700, John Larkin > <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:43:44 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> Damon Hill wrote: >>>> Here in the Pacific Northwet, it's struggling to get into the >>>> 60s and sunshine has been a scarce commodity so far this year. >>>> That's supposed to change in a big way in a few days--summer >>>> at last! There's still over five feet of snow on the ground >>>> at Paradise on Mt. Rainier. (Actually, it's compressed slush.) >>>> >>>> http://www.cascadeclimber.com/web_cams.htm >>>> >>>> This time last year we were in the upper 90s and set an all-time >>>> record high of 102F. So I'm not complaining. >>>> >>>> I rather like Hebrew Nation brand dogs, but the best hot dog I ever >>>> had were Kominski Park. >>>> >>> I ate the very best burger I ever had while on a long drive on Saturday. >>> If you ever have to do the whole I-5 stretch, it's the Black Bear Diner >>> in Willows (between Redding and Sacramento). Li'l mom and pop place, >>> very small village, everyone seemed to know everyone else there. $7.99, >>> still drooling ... >> I80 yesterday: we left Truckee at 5PM. It peaked at 103F in Roseville, >> down to 56 in San Francisco. Approaching the Bay, the gradient exceeds >> 1 degree F per mile. > > What's the gradient? At a 6% grade, the adiabatic lapse rate is about 1-3/4 > degree F per mile. ;-) > From Roseville to S.F. it's next to nothing, except for a bunch of hills that need to be crossed at the end it's all flat. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: John Larkin on 6 Jul 2010 21:00 On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:53:09 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:09:05 -0700, John Larkin >> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:43:44 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Damon Hill wrote: >>>>> Here in the Pacific Northwet, it's struggling to get into the >>>>> 60s and sunshine has been a scarce commodity so far this year. >>>>> That's supposed to change in a big way in a few days--summer >>>>> at last! There's still over five feet of snow on the ground >>>>> at Paradise on Mt. Rainier. (Actually, it's compressed slush.) >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cascadeclimber.com/web_cams.htm >>>>> >>>>> This time last year we were in the upper 90s and set an all-time >>>>> record high of 102F. So I'm not complaining. >>>>> >>>>> I rather like Hebrew Nation brand dogs, but the best hot dog I ever >>>>> had were Kominski Park. >>>>> >>>> I ate the very best burger I ever had while on a long drive on Saturday. >>>> If you ever have to do the whole I-5 stretch, it's the Black Bear Diner >>>> in Willows (between Redding and Sacramento). Li'l mom and pop place, >>>> very small village, everyone seemed to know everyone else there. $7.99, >>>> still drooling ... >>> I80 yesterday: we left Truckee at 5PM. It peaked at 103F in Roseville, >>> down to 56 in San Francisco. Approaching the Bay, the gradient exceeds >>> 1 degree F per mile. >> >> What's the gradient? At a 6% grade, the adiabatic lapse rate is about 1-3/4 >> degree F per mile. ;-) >> > >From Roseville to S.F. it's next to nothing, except for a bunch of hills > that need to be crossed at the end it's all flat. > >[...] Right. It's the ice-cold water off the coast that cools us off. I experimentally determined that the delta-T with altitude, going up the western side of the Sierra, is about 1 deg F per 300 feet, right around KRW's number. John
From: Joerg on 6 Jul 2010 21:07
John Larkin wrote: > On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:53:09 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:09:05 -0700, John Larkin >>> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:43:44 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Damon Hill wrote: >>>>>> Here in the Pacific Northwet, it's struggling to get into the >>>>>> 60s and sunshine has been a scarce commodity so far this year. >>>>>> That's supposed to change in a big way in a few days--summer >>>>>> at last! There's still over five feet of snow on the ground >>>>>> at Paradise on Mt. Rainier. (Actually, it's compressed slush.) >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.cascadeclimber.com/web_cams.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> This time last year we were in the upper 90s and set an all-time >>>>>> record high of 102F. So I'm not complaining. >>>>>> >>>>>> I rather like Hebrew Nation brand dogs, but the best hot dog I ever >>>>>> had were Kominski Park. >>>>>> >>>>> I ate the very best burger I ever had while on a long drive on Saturday. >>>>> If you ever have to do the whole I-5 stretch, it's the Black Bear Diner >>>>> in Willows (between Redding and Sacramento). Li'l mom and pop place, >>>>> very small village, everyone seemed to know everyone else there. $7.99, >>>>> still drooling ... >>>> I80 yesterday: we left Truckee at 5PM. It peaked at 103F in Roseville, >>>> down to 56 in San Francisco. Approaching the Bay, the gradient exceeds >>>> 1 degree F per mile. >>> What's the gradient? At a 6% grade, the adiabatic lapse rate is about 1-3/4 >>> degree F per mile. ;-) >>> >>From Roseville to S.F. it's next to nothing, except for a bunch of hills >> that need to be crossed at the end it's all flat. >> >> [...] > > Right. It's the ice-cold water off the coast that cools us off. > > I experimentally determined that the delta-T with altitude, going up > the western side of the Sierra, is about 1 deg F per 300 feet, right > around KRW's number. > I remember my young days when I royally messed that up. Was tired, stopped the car which also seemed somewhat tired, pitched my tent, had a couple of brewskys, went to sleep. Woke up around 4:00am and almost froze my butt off. The wee detail I had overlooked was a wee sign with the word "summit" on there. That also explained why the car had lost so much power. I never made that mistake again. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |