How Does Your CADCAM System Handle Real World Simulation Tasks? [SolidWorks]

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From: Joe788 on 8 Dec 2009 17:03

While losers who can't back up what they have to say continue to post
complete and utter bullshit and spin consider that the Jon Banquer
blog can always back it up with FACTS!

The Jon Banquer blog has added two new screen shots showing exactly
what Mastercam can't do and DP Technology Esprit can easily do with
very little effort on the users part. Is it any wonder that so many
machining job shops that use Mastercam are adding DP Technology
Esprit? The reason for this is straight forward and as simple as it
gets:

Mastercam can't get the job done like DP Technology Esprit can.

http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

How does your CADCAM system handle real world simulation tasks like
those that have been described and are now shown on the Jon Banquer
blog?

The Jon Banquer blog is the world leader in providing original CAM-
centric content. If you're not reading the Jon Banquer blog you can be
sure of one thing... your competition is! ;>)

http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

From: Joe788 on 8 Dec 2009 18:08

On Dec 8, 2:03 pm, Joe788 <larryro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> While losers who can't back up what they have to say continue to post
> complete and utter bullshit and spin consider that the Jon Banquer
> blog can always back it up with FACTS!
>

"FACTS"? Like the FACT that your "problem" with mask on arc was
completely self inflicted?

The FACT that you signed up a fake name on emastercam so you could
complain about Mastercam's inability to machine an open pocket, only
to be quickly rebuffed by people who actually know what they are
doing?

The FACT is that you are utterly helpless on virtually every aspect of
Mastercam.

If you spent 1/10th the time using and learning the software, as you
do complaining about it, you wouldn't have nearly so many complaints.
Then again, you are not even remotely sane, so who knows what would
happen.

From: Joe788 on 8 Dec 2009 22:21

From: Joe788 on 9 Dec 2009 11:02

On Dec 8, 7:21 pm, Joe788 <larryro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> While losers who can't back up what they have to say continue to post
> complete and utter bullshit and spin consider that the Jon Banquer
> blog can always back it up with FACTS!
>
> The Jon Banquer blog has added two new screen shots showing exactly
> what Mastercam can't do and DP Technology Esprit can easily do with
> very little effort on the users part. Is it any wonder that so many
> machining job shops that use Mastercam are adding DP Technology
> Esprit? The reason for this is straight forward and as simple as it
> gets:
>
> Mastercam can't get the job done like DP Technology Esprit can.
>
> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/
>
> How does your CADCAM system handle real world simulation tasks like
> those that have been described and are now shown on the Jon Banquer
> blog?
>
> The Jon Banquer blog is the world leader in providing original CAM-
> centric content. If you're not reading the Jon Banquer blog you can be
> sure of one thing... your competition is! ;>)
>
> http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/

"FACTS"? Like the FACT that your "problem" with mask on arc was
completely self inflicted?

The FACT that you signed up a fake name on emastercam so you could
complain about Mastercam's inability to machine an open pocket, only
to be quickly rebuffed by people who actually know what they are
doing?

The FACT is that you are utterly helpless on virtually every aspect of
Mastercam.

If you spent 1/10th the time using and learning the software, as you
do complaining about it, you wouldn't have nearly so many complaints.
Then again, you are not even remotely sane, so who knows what would
happen.

From: Cliff on 9 Dec 2009 17:15

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:19:38 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <joemama788(a)aol.com> wrote:

>On Dec 7, 6:36�pm, Zymrgy <zym...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 7, 7:12�pm, Joe788 <larryro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/dp-technology-esprit-vs-mastercam-x4/
>>
>> > "Solid Cut Part Verify / Simulation:
>>
>> > Esprit has it all over Mastercam X4 in this area. The integration of
>> > MachineWorks in Esprit is easily the best I�ve ever seen in a CADCAM
>> > system. Here is a specific example of what I mean when I say that the
>> > integration of MachineWorks in Esprit is easily the best I�ve ever
>> > seen in a CADCAM system. Lets say you wish to accurately simulate a
>> > part that needs 4 vice operations to be complete. Esprit allows you to
>> > save what they call a .SIM file. This .SIM file will automatically be
>> > placed relative to an Active Work Plane that you establish for your
>> > second operation so if you need the part flipped over for your second
>> > operation you set up your Active Work Plane for the second vise to be
>> > flipped over. That�s all you need to do! �Lets compare this to what
>> > Mastercam makes you go through: Mastercam doesn�t have anything like
>> > a .SIM file or any way to automate this process. You have to use STL
>> > Transform to manually move your saved cut part STL file from your
>> > first operation and then manually save it in the position you need it
>> > to be in for your second operation. Moving, rotating and placing STL
>> > files in Mastercam is an arduous process at best. The latter process
>> > is so impractical and so labor intensive that in Mastercam no one has
>> > the time to do accurate / real cut part simulation that shows what
>> > actually is happening on the machine when it comes to something like a
>> > multi-vise setup."
>>
>> > How does your CADCAM system handle real world simulation tasks like
>> > those that have been described above?
>>
>> Copy & paste to your hearts content Yoni...still it does not make it
>> true. The only time you have to transform an .stl in mastercam is when
>> you are going from a lathe operation to a mill op...and even then this
>> is true only if you need to work off a system WCS. why bother to
>> redefine the stock with each vise setup when you can just use one and
>> use your WCS properly to control the rest of the setups?
>
>Shhhhhhhh! You weren't supposed to tell Jon that he's doing it
>completely wrong, *again*. Every time Jon's ignorance and
>incompetence reaches new heights, he finds a way push that bar up to
>the next notch.
>
>Mask on arc, chaining, open pocketing, drilling holes, and now
>verification. Jon has struggled with key aspects of all of them. Since
>that pretty much covers every facet of Mastercam, where can he go from
>here?

He only has the voices in his head to instruct him.
And THEY are all crazy & ignorant.

He will NEVER get any clues.
--
Cliff

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