From: AZ Nomad on 8 Jun 2010 19:40 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:14:41 +0000 (UTC), Kenny McCormack <gazelle(a)shell.xmission.com> wrote: >In article <slrni0t1qe.3um.unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca>, >unruh <unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> wrote: >... >>machine. ftp, rcp, Or if necessary, just remove the disk from the old >>computer, put it into a usb external case and copy the stuff over on the >>new computer. >He has been adamant that moving the hard disk is not an option. >I think it was simply worry about fragility/moving it. If the hard drive isn't spinning, anything that doesn't kill the human carrying it won't kill it unless you go to the trouble of winging it against the floor as hard as you can or running it over with a truck. If you're capable of unboxing a computer, then you can move a hard drive. The unboxed computer actually is a lot more fragile.
From: Robert Heller on 8 Jun 2010 20:44 At Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:53:49 GMT unruh <unruh(a)wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> wrote: > > On 2010-06-08, John Hasler <jhasler(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > > unruh writes: > >> So? That means he does not have rsync installed already. But he can > >> install it! > > > > He'd almost certainly have to compile it as the machine probably does > > not have the libraries it would need. He'd probably also have to > > compile some of those libraries and/or patch rsynch. That's if the > > machine has a compiler... > > > > And then there is the matter of getting it onto the machine: if he could > > do that he wouldn't need to as he could get the stuff he needs to save > > off the same way. > > > >> But he seems singularly unwilling to tell us what IS on that machine. > > > > Yes. He ignored my request that he list the contents of the bin and > > sbin directories. > > > >> ftp, rcp,,, > > > > He seems to think that it has rcp. If so he's got it made. > > > >> Or if necessary, just remove the disk from the old computer, put it > >> into a usb external case and copy the stuff over on the new computer. > > > > He says he doesn't have a machine with a compatible controller (a USB > > external certainly wouldn't). > > ?? sure it would. At least I certainly have used ancient disk drives on > usb external cases designed for ata disk drives. Of course they may be > difficult to find now adays. I believe the OP said they were on a hardware RAID controller, more than likely a *SCSI* hardware RAID controller. With some obsolute RAID controller. One generally cannot move a *hardware* RAID set from one make of controller to another... > > > > -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software -- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database heller(a)deepsoft.com -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk
From: Todd on 9 Jun 2010 13:01 On 06/08/2010 12:00 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> But he seems singularly unwilling to tell us what IS on that machine. > > Yes. He ignored my request that he list the contents of the bin and > sbin directories. I did not ignore you. I do not have access to the machine, except when I am on site for a trouble call. I thought I stated such.
From: Todd on 9 Jun 2010 13:13 > If the hard drive isn't spinning, anything that doesn't kill the human > carrying it won't kill it unless you go to the trouble of winging it against > the floor as hard as you can or running it over with a truck. > > If you're capable of unboxing a computer, then you can move a hard drive. > The unboxed computer actually is a lot more fragile. > When the bearing grease vaporizes with age, you can not change its physical location or the spindle will freeze up. I have had this happen too many times. :'(
From: General Schvantzkoph on 9 Jun 2010 13:56
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:13:33 -0700, Todd wrote: >> If the hard drive isn't spinning, anything that doesn't kill the human >> carrying it won't kill it unless you go to the trouble of winging it >> against the floor as hard as you can or running it over with a truck. >> >> If you're capable of unboxing a computer, then you can move a hard >> drive. The unboxed computer actually is a lot more fragile. >> >> > When the bearing grease vaporizes with age, you can not change its > physical location or the spindle will freeze up. I have had this happen > too many times. :'( You can do it without moving the drive or the box, all you have to do is place the new machine next to the old one and attach the IDE and power cables to the new machine. If nothing else works this can be your fall back plan. |