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From: dorayme on 15 Jul 2010 00:25
In article <i1le74$u9j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> Oh, crikey! That's an indirect Godwin, so I 'win', and the thread is dead.
>
> And, yeah, it's not an apologia by me; it's simply the way it is.

You were winning till your last paragraph, now you lose. <g>

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dorayme
From: David Empson on 15 Jul 2010 03:08
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> In article <i1lbkl$i73$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
> > However, I still have my apps in logical groups. I just have to
> > use "ln -s" instead of "mv" :-)
>
> Are there any differences between a symlink and an Apple alias? I have a
> probably incorrect notion that an alias is better on OSX.

They have different behaviour.

A symlink works with UNIX tools, an alias doesn't (unless they are
specially written to recognise it, and most aren't). Mac OS X GUI
applications almost always work with both.

A symlink has a hard-coded path to a file. If you move or rename the
original file (or any parent folder), the symlink points to the same
location and won't open the file.

An alias remembers the full path, parent directory ID, file ID and
original filename. If you move or rename the original file or any parent
directory within the same volume, the alias will follow the file to its
new location. If the file is deleted, the alias will revert to the
original location (by directory ID, or path if necessary), but if an
identically named file is not in the original location, the alias won't
open anything (until you put a suitable file in the right location).

An example:

1. Start with a symlink and alias to the same file.
2. Move the file somewhere else.
3. Put a new identically named file in the original location.

The symlink will open the new file (ignoring the old moved one). The
alias will open the old moved file (ignoring the new one).

If you then delete the old moved file, the alias will open the new file,
and will subsequently follow that file (as long as the alias is used to
access the file before it gets moved again).

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David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jul 2010 06:31
In article <2010071417035016807-not(a)dotcom>,
thepixelfreak <not(a)dot.com> wrote:

> On 2010-07-13 17:59:46 -0700, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> said:
>
> > In article
> > <8b63dfcb-2454-419b-800e-df2271a3945e(a)x20g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
> > Tony <henree21(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am going to clean my Hd. IS there a way to view all my installed
> >> Applications and view their sizes?
> >
> > One of the best utilities for visually seeing where you disk space is
> > being used is a treemap program. Disk Inventory X is one such program
> > for Mac OS X:
> >
> > <http://www.derlien.com/>
>
> Disk Inventory X requires Rosetta. If you don't have Rosetta installed
>
> http://grandperspectiv.sourceforge.net
>
> is an Intel only binary that is fairly similar to Disk Inventory X.

Good to know. Thanks.

I personally prefer DaisyDisk anyhow.

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From: Leonard Blaisdell on 15 Jul 2010 22:00
In article <1jlolve.6q0h1t1f2q0ajN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>,
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:


> They have different behaviour.

<snip behavior differences>

I knew there was something. Thank you very much for the details.

leo
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