How to get a "Windows RAS" on my Centro ?
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From: Harold Fuchs on 13 May 2010 19:57 "Mark Olson" <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> wrote in message news:rL2dnQzRdtCGSnbWnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d(a)posted.visi... > Harold Fuchs wrote: >> >> "Mark Olson" <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> wrote in message >> news:492dnTHjAKwXynbWnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d(a)posted.visi... >>> Harold Fuchs wrote: >>>> >>>> "Charly" <No.Email(a)No.Spam> wrote in message >>>> news:4beade77$0$10140$426a74cc(a)news.free.fr... >>> >>>>> In the past I used the "Windows RAS" connection found in the Palm >>>>> TC/T3/T5 preferences, to connect my Palm to the Internet via my >>>>> computer and Softick PPP. >>>>> >>>>> Today I'm configuring a Centro and wanted to test Internet software >>>>> (GoogleMap, Opera Mini, etc...) without using my wireless data plan, >>>>> so I reinstalled PPP on my computer and went to the Centro >>>>> preferences... and found nothing ! The "Windows RAS" option is not >>>>> there anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone knows if it is possible to have this option again ? How ? >>>>> Software download ? manuel setup ? >>> >>>> It's none of my business but would you mind explaining why you want to >>>> do this? If you can connect your computer to the net, and if you can >>>> connect your PDA to your computer, why on earth would you want to >>>> connect your PDA to the net *via* your computer? Small screen, tiny >>>> keyboard, limited browser capability, slower connection speed etc. etc. >>>> Why not just connect the computer to the net, download whatever you >>>> need and then copy it to the PDA? I'm not trying to be rude; I really >>>> don't understand. >>> >>> I can't answer for Charly, only for myself, but I find it quite >>> convenient >>> to be able to get on the net on my Palm T|X when I wake up in the middle >>> of >>> the night and want to find something out quick without getting up and >>> sitting down at a computer. I can reach over to the nightstand, fire up >>> the Palm and be reading my gmail before I could even get to the >>> computer. >>> >> >> Hmm. OK, that sounds reasonable. I always switch my computer off at night >> ... >> Or I could use Wi-Fi (iPod Touch) via my router, which stays on at night >> but doesn't rely on the computer itself. > > I use WiFi on my T|X at home, of course. > > I was in a hotel once where I had WiFi on my laptop but not on the > Palm, since WiFi access wasn't free. So PPP via Bluetooth through > the laptop was the solution. > Again, why not just use the laptop? A lot less fiddly ... -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please do *not* reply to my personal e-mail address.
From: Mark Olson on 13 May 2010 20:16 Harold Fuchs wrote: > > "Mark Olson" <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> wrote in message > news:rL2dnQzRdtCGSnbWnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d(a)posted.visi... >> Harold Fuchs wrote: >>> >>> "Mark Olson" <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:492dnTHjAKwXynbWnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d(a)posted.visi... >>>> Harold Fuchs wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Charly" <No.Email(a)No.Spam> wrote in message >>>>> news:4beade77$0$10140$426a74cc(a)news.free.fr... >>>> >>>>>> In the past I used the "Windows RAS" connection found in the Palm >>>>>> TC/T3/T5 preferences, to connect my Palm to the Internet via my >>>>>> computer and Softick PPP. >>>>>> >>>>>> Today I'm configuring a Centro and wanted to test Internet >>>>>> software (GoogleMap, Opera Mini, etc...) without using my wireless >>>>>> data plan, so I reinstalled PPP on my computer and went to the >>>>>> Centro preferences... and found nothing ! The "Windows RAS" option >>>>>> is not there anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone knows if it is possible to have this option again ? How ? >>>>>> Software download ? manuel setup ? >>>> >>>>> It's none of my business but would you mind explaining why you want >>>>> to do this? If you can connect your computer to the net, and if you >>>>> can connect your PDA to your computer, why on earth would you want >>>>> to connect your PDA to the net *via* your computer? Small screen, >>>>> tiny keyboard, limited browser capability, slower connection speed >>>>> etc. etc. Why not just connect the computer to the net, download >>>>> whatever you need and then copy it to the PDA? I'm not trying to be >>>>> rude; I really don't understand. >>>> >>>> I can't answer for Charly, only for myself, but I find it quite >>>> convenient >>>> to be able to get on the net on my Palm T|X when I wake up in the >>>> middle of >>>> the night and want to find something out quick without getting up and >>>> sitting down at a computer. I can reach over to the nightstand, >>>> fire up >>>> the Palm and be reading my gmail before I could even get to the >>>> computer. >>>> >>> >>> Hmm. OK, that sounds reasonable. I always switch my computer off at >>> night ... >>> Or I could use Wi-Fi (iPod Touch) via my router, which stays on at >>> night but doesn't rely on the computer itself. >> >> I use WiFi on my T|X at home, of course. >> >> I was in a hotel once where I had WiFi on my laptop but not on the >> Palm, since WiFi access wasn't free. So PPP via Bluetooth through >> the laptop was the solution. >> > > Again, why not just use the laptop? A lot less fiddly ... I'm lying in bed, reading an ebook on my Palm. I decide I want to check my email quickly, but I don't want to get out of the nice warm bed, so I push a few buttons on the device I am already holding and voila. The alternative is to get out of bed and sit at a desk. Do you understand now?
From: Richard B. Gilbert on 13 May 2010 22:08 Mark Olson wrote: > Harold Fuchs wrote: >> >> "Mark Olson" <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> wrote in message >> news:rL2dnQzRdtCGSnbWnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d(a)posted.visi... >>> Harold Fuchs wrote: >>>> >>>> "Mark Olson" <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:492dnTHjAKwXynbWnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d(a)posted.visi... >>>>> Harold Fuchs wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Charly" <No.Email(a)No.Spam> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4beade77$0$10140$426a74cc(a)news.free.fr... >>>>> >>>>>>> In the past I used the "Windows RAS" connection found in the Palm >>>>>>> TC/T3/T5 preferences, to connect my Palm to the Internet via my >>>>>>> computer and Softick PPP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Today I'm configuring a Centro and wanted to test Internet >>>>>>> software (GoogleMap, Opera Mini, etc...) without using my >>>>>>> wireless data plan, so I reinstalled PPP on my computer and went >>>>>>> to the Centro preferences... and found nothing ! The "Windows >>>>>>> RAS" option is not there anymore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone knows if it is possible to have this option again ? How ? >>>>>>> Software download ? manuel setup ? >>>>> >>>>>> It's none of my business but would you mind explaining why you >>>>>> want to do this? If you can connect your computer to the net, and >>>>>> if you can connect your PDA to your computer, why on earth would >>>>>> you want to connect your PDA to the net *via* your computer? Small >>>>>> screen, tiny keyboard, limited browser capability, slower >>>>>> connection speed etc. etc. Why not just connect the computer to >>>>>> the net, download whatever you need and then copy it to the PDA? >>>>>> I'm not trying to be rude; I really don't understand. >>>>> >>>>> I can't answer for Charly, only for myself, but I find it quite >>>>> convenient >>>>> to be able to get on the net on my Palm T|X when I wake up in the >>>>> middle of >>>>> the night and want to find something out quick without getting up and >>>>> sitting down at a computer. I can reach over to the nightstand, >>>>> fire up >>>>> the Palm and be reading my gmail before I could even get to the >>>>> computer. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hmm. OK, that sounds reasonable. I always switch my computer off at >>>> night ... >>>> Or I could use Wi-Fi (iPod Touch) via my router, which stays on at >>>> night but doesn't rely on the computer itself. >>> >>> I use WiFi on my T|X at home, of course. >>> >>> I was in a hotel once where I had WiFi on my laptop but not on the >>> Palm, since WiFi access wasn't free. So PPP via Bluetooth through >>> the laptop was the solution. >>> >> >> Again, why not just use the laptop? A lot less fiddly ... > > I'm lying in bed, reading an ebook on my Palm. I decide I want to check > my email quickly, but I don't want to get out of the nice warm bed, so > I push a few buttons on the device I am already holding and voila. > > The alternative is to get out of bed and sit at a desk. > Oh!!!!!! Poor baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Do you understand now? >
From: Charly on 17 May 2010 12:38
Thanks all for your comments, but unfortunately, no solution... In fact I wanted to to that for testing purposes for a Palm CENTRO. The CENTRO, like the TREO phones, does not have wifi. The only way to gain internet access is to use a phone "GSM/GPRS/EDGE/whatsoever" data plan that cost money. I thought that it was clear. I was configuring some Internet software (email, web, googlemap, ...) and it can be money consumming doing so via your phone data plan. I wanted to save that money and use a means of connexion I used with other devices like T3 or T5. I finally have done the testing via the data plan... And for the regular use I'm using the phone connection : it is meant for that. BUT if anyone knows the answer to my question, it can be usefull for a future use or somebody else. Charly |