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From: Tinkerer Atlarge on 6 Apr 2010 22:12
Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

> Kir�ly wrote:
> > Tinkerer Atlarge <tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down.
> >> This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes
> >> 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?
> >
> > Could it be that it's taking longer to log off than to actually shut
> > down? Try logging out of your primary user account and then shut down
> > from the login window or from a different user account. Is that any
> > faster?
> >
> > PS shutting a Mac down is really only necessary if you need to remove
> > the battery (laptop) or unplug it (desktop). If you don't need to do
> > either of those, you would probably benefit from using sleep mode
> > instead of shutting down.
>
> It looks as if the OP's Mac could be a G4, and then there are lots of
> problems to let it go to sleep, since sleep isn't supported with mounted
> extra PCI cards such as USB 2.0, SCSI or Firewire cards...

Yes, it's a 1GHz G4.

> My guess is that more log and/or cache files are open or very large
> activity log files are not stored or deleted, caches not emptied, and
> the temporary files are not deleted at close down. It is known that temp
> files sometimes can cause this especially on 10.3.x and 10.4.x on G4s. -
> Some of my friends have the exact same problem with their older dual
> G4/533mhz, so I'll have to go out there to see, if I'm right about my
> thoughts.... MainMenu 1.7.4 can delete all these stored caches, temp
> files and more, - if you can find the ver. 1.7.4 anymore. The new ver.
> 2.x is no longer freeware.
>
> Cheers, Erik Richard

Thanx. I have now done that. It might have made it shut down a bit
faster, but it still seems slow to me.

The longest stretch is after it goes to the blue screen with the little
black twirly-gig at the bottom. That lasts about 30 seconds.

Cheers

From: Tinkerer Atlarge on 6 Apr 2010 22:17
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <1jgiv8b.1j8is5s9mdov9N%tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au>,
> tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au (Tinkerer Atlarge) wrote:
>
> > My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down.
> > This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes
> > 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.
> >
> > Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?
>
> I'm betting a peek at the /var/log/system.log file would tell you
> exactly why it's taking so long.

Here is all I can find in /var/log/system.log relating to the previous
shut-down. It doesn't seem to cover anything like the 30 seconds of blue
screen with little black twirly-gig at bottom. Maybe you can spot
something:

Apr 7 11:23:07 eMac /Library/Application
Support/Symantec/Scheduler/SymSecondaryLaunch.app/Contents/NortonMissedT
asks: uid 501 already done\n

Apr 7 11:27:01 eMac loginwindow[167]: sendQuitEventToApp (HOMERunner):
AESendMessage returned error -609

Apr 7 11:27:01 eMac loginwindow[167]: sendQuitEventToApp
(N124U_ButtonManager): AESendMessage returned error -609

Apr 7 11:27:01 eMac loginwindow[167]: sendQuitEventToApp
(N067U_ButtonManager): AESendMessage returned error -609

Apr 7 11:27:02 eMac shutdown: halt by tinkerer:

Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac SystemStarter[248]: authentication service (264)
did not complete successfully

Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac kernel[0]: jnl: close: flushing the buffer cache
(start 0x6d2e00 end 0x6d6000)

Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac SystemStarter[248]: File Deletion Tracking (256)
did not complete successfully

Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac SystemStarter[248]: SymDC Extension Selection (276)
did not complete successfully


Apr 7 11:28:31 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is
10000 us ...



From: Jolly Roger on 6 Apr 2010 22:43
In article <1jgktj9.113pu6b18zi2wmN%tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au>,
tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au (Tinkerer Atlarge) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1jgiv8b.1j8is5s9mdov9N%tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au>,
> > tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au (Tinkerer Atlarge) wrote:
> >
> > > My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down.
> > > This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes
> > > 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?
> >
> > I'm betting a peek at the /var/log/system.log file would tell you
> > exactly why it's taking so long.
>
> Here is all I can find in /var/log/system.log relating to the previous
> shut-down. It doesn't seem to cover anything like the 30 seconds of blue
> screen with little black twirly-gig at bottom. Maybe you can spot
> something:
>
> Apr 7 11:23:07 eMac /Library/Application
> Support/Symantec/Scheduler/SymSecondaryLaunch.app/Contents/NortonMissedT
> asks: uid 501 already done\n
>
> Apr 7 11:27:01 eMac loginwindow[167]: sendQuitEventToApp (HOMERunner):
> AESendMessage returned error -609
>
> Apr 7 11:27:01 eMac loginwindow[167]: sendQuitEventToApp
> (N124U_ButtonManager): AESendMessage returned error -609
>
> Apr 7 11:27:01 eMac loginwindow[167]: sendQuitEventToApp
> (N067U_ButtonManager): AESendMessage returned error -609
>
> Apr 7 11:27:02 eMac shutdown: halt by tinkerer:
>
> Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac SystemStarter[248]: authentication service (264)
> did not complete successfully
>
> Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac kernel[0]: jnl: close: flushing the buffer cache
> (start 0x6d2e00 end 0x6d6000)
>
> Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac SystemStarter[248]: File Deletion Tracking (256)
> did not complete successfully
>
> Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac SystemStarter[248]: SymDC Extension Selection (276)
> did not complete successfully
>
>
> Apr 7 11:28:31 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is
> 10000 us ...

You're running Norton - that's very likely the problem.

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From: John McWilliams on 7 Apr 2010 00:58
Tinkerer Atlarge wrote:
> Király <me(a)home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
>
>> Tinkerer Atlarge <tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down.
>>> This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes
>>> 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?
>> Could it be that it's taking longer to log off than to actually shut
>> down? Try logging out of your primary user account and then shut down
>> from the login window or from a different user account. Is that any
>> faster?
>
> Makes no difference.
>
>> PS shutting a Mac down is really only necessary if you need to remove
>> the battery (laptop) or unplug it (desktop). If you don't need to do
>> either of those, you would probably benefit from using sleep mode
>> instead of shutting down.
>
> Unfortunately I am currently doing something which requires frequent
> reboots..

What, prithee, is that something?

--
john mcwilliams

From: Tinkerer Atlarge on 7 Apr 2010 01:41
John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> Tinkerer Atlarge wrote:
> > Kir�ly <me(a)home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> Tinkerer Atlarge <tinkerer(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>> My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down.
> >>> This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes
> >>> 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?
> >> Could it be that it's taking longer to log off than to actually shut
> >> down? Try logging out of your primary user account and then shut down
> >> from the login window or from a different user account. Is that any
> >> faster?
> >
> > Makes no difference.
> >
> >> PS shutting a Mac down is really only necessary if you need to remove
> >> the battery (laptop) or unplug it (desktop). If you don't need to do
> >> either of those, you would probably benefit from using sleep mode
> >> instead of shutting down.
> >
> > Unfortunately I am currently doing something which requires frequent
> > reboots..
>
> What, prithee, is that something?

Sussing out how the boot rom works
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