How to reduce a debian system to a base system
in [Debian]
|
From: Mike Viau on 19 Mar 2010 20:20 > On Friday 19 March 2010 01:09:20 pm Mike Viau wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:31:40 +0100 > > > From: iodine(a)runbox.no > > > To: debian-user(a)lists.debian.org > > > Subject: Re: How to reduce a debian system to a base system > > > > > > Mike Viau wrote: > > > > In essence I would like to revert my system back to a freshly > > > > installed state, without reinstalling. Ultimatly is this possible? > > > > > > -snip- > > > > > > > I was hoping to find a solution for a currently running Debian system > > > > rather then to create a bare bone baseline or image... > > > > > > Wouldn't the easiest way be to backup all important data and > > > reinstall? That _should_ give the same end result. But if that > > > isn't a viable option for you, please explain why. Is this perhaps > > > a remote server that you can't get your hands on, I can see how > > > that would be a problem. > > > > > > -- > > > Odd > > > > I do have physical access to the box, but it does not have an optical drive > > to make re-installation painless. I temporarily borrowed a USB drive that > > is not with me anymore. The hardware is very recent and last time I tried > > to used the net install disk the e1000e driver I was unable to detect my > > network card and the Debian setup insisted that I was to use Ethernet over > > Firewire. > > > On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:48:54 -0900 <gomadtroll(a)acsalaska.net> wrote: > > Would be nice to have a 'snapshot' feature to revert to. I have used aptitude > (dselect) to get close to a standard install, base + standard is not that many > packages, no X. > Yes I agree it would be a very handy feature. What is the debian-user mailing list members thoughts on creating a feature request for such a feature. > It is a bit tedious, but it can be done, Search for and purge xorg, gnome stuff. > Aptitude remembers packages that have been installed as recommends and will prompt > you to offer to remove them. 'deborphan' can help find & remove orphaned > libraries. > I have noticed that the packages marked as auto are automatically removed when the package that depended on the automatically installed package was removed (such as the recommends packages). I was unaware of the deborphan package. +1 for the find and teach out! > > -- > Peace > > Greg Madden > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian..org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003191448.54996.gomadtroll(a)acsalaska.net > _________________________________________________________________ Check your Hotmail from your phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712957
From: Ron Johnson on 19 Mar 2010 22:20 >> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:48:54 -0900 <gomadtroll(a)acsalaska.net> wrote: >> >> Would be nice to have a 'snapshot' feature to revert to. I have used aptitude >> (dselect) to get close to a standard install, base + standard is not that many >> packages, no X. >> > > Yes I agree it would be a very handy feature. What is the debian-user mailing list members thoughts on creating a feature request for such a feature. > I see no purpose, when you can do this at any time: COLUMNS=180 dpkg -l | grep ^i | \ cut -c4-44 > installed.packages.`date +"%Y%M%d-%H%m"` Since that's obviously a pain to write, put it in an alias. -- Obsession with "preserving cultural heritage" is a racist impediment to moral, physical and intellectual progress. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BA42F5D.5020909(a)cox.net
From: Mike Viau on 19 Mar 2010 22:20 > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:48:02 -0700 <mgb-debian(a)yosemite.net> wrote: > > On Fri March 19 2010 12:55:47 Mike Viau wrote: > > I was looking for a way to purge or remove all the packages that were > > installed on a Debian system after the initial (bare bone) minimal system > > installation. I have searched on Google for "How to reduce a Debian system > > to a base system" but it seems like the topic of interest was to reduce the > > memory consumption of the installed system, which is not my consern. > > > > In essence I would like to revert my system back to a freshly installed > > state, without reinstalling. Ultimatly is this possible? > > Assuming your bare bones --get-selections file is called bbs: > > dpkg --dry-run --purge $(join -v2 <(awk '{if ($2=="install") print $1}' <bbs | > sort) <(dpkg --get-selections | awk '{if ($2=="install") print $1}' | sort)) > > Remove "--dry-run" at your own peril once you're happy with the proposed > actions. > > You may need to run it a couple or three times but that should do it. > > --Mike Bird > My output with the suggestion above. debian:~# dpkg --dry-run --purge $(join -v2 <(awk '{if ($2=="install") print $1}' < debian-5.04-base-selections | sort) < (dpkg --get-selections | awk '{if ($2=="install") print $1}' | sort)) bash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `(' bash: command substitution: line 1: `join -v2 <(awk '{if ($2=="install") print $1}' < debian-5.04-base-selections | sort) < (dpkg --get-selections | awk '{if ($2=="install") print $1}' | sort)' dpkg: --purge needs at least one package name argument Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*]; Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management; Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values; Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options; Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files; Type dpkg --license for copyright license and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*]. Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' ! debian:~# > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian..org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003191448.03134.mgb-debian(a)yosemite.net > _________________________________________________________________ IM on the go with Messenger on your phone http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712960
From: Greg Madden on 19 Mar 2010 22:30 On Friday 19 March 2010 03:52:44 pm Mike Viau wrote: > On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:31:44 -0300 <rogluz.news(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Ok the bigger problem you should have is "what is a base system" > > I agree, what a base system means can be different among users. I was refering to what Debian calls a 'base' intall and 'standard'. When you install Debian (net install) the base system is installed, then a reboot is done to install any 'tasksel' (gnome the default or alternate desktops) items. i think 'standard' packages are added if you allow aptitude to run after the first reboot without selecting any additional tasks. hope this makes sense. > > >You could run in another box a installation and get a list of the basic > > system packages, but what do you want the box for? give us a user case > > and we would try to sort this mess out for you. > > Thanks :) > > >Definitely purging X is a must -- that will take down about 90% of the > > "flavour" packages and none of the essential stuff, could you not start > > there ? > > Absolutely, I think that would be a good place to start > > >Do you need SQL ? Mail ? Apache ... etc ... > > Not at the moment. My hopes are to remove all the packages that have been > installed as time progressed after the initial installation. I am fine with > keeping the later versions that were not present on the installation media > I used. > > >A use case would be great ... or is this a experiment? > > I suppose I can classify this as an experiment case, whereas I will likely > later on try out various (which may include Apache, Samba, whatever really, > etc) Debian packages on the system. This time I plan to keep better track > of what I have installed so that the packages can be purged easily when I > am finished with the application. > > > Rogerio > > 2010/3/19 Greg Madden <gomadtroll(a)acsalaska.net> > > On Friday 19 March 2010 01:09:20 pm Mike Viau wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:31:40 +0100 > > > > > > From: iodine(a)runbox.no > > > > > > To: debian-user(a)lists.debian.org > > > > > > Subject: Re: How to reduce a debian system to a base system > > > > > > Mike Viau wrote: > > > > In essence I would like to revert my system back to a freshly > > > > > > > > installed state, without reinstalling. Ultimatly is this possible? > > > > > > -snip- > > > > > > > I was hoping to find a solution for a currently running Debian system > > > > > > > > rather then to create a bare bone baseline or image... > > > > > > Wouldn't the easiest way be to backup all important data and > > > > > > reinstall? That _should_ give the same end result. But if that > > > > > > isn't a viable option for you, please explain why. Is this perhaps > > > > > > a remote server that you can't get your hands on, I can see how > > > > > > that would be a problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Odd > > > > I do have physical access to the box, but it does not have an optical > > drive > > > > to make re-installation painless. I temporarily borrowed a USB drive that > > > > is not with me anymore. The hardware is very recent and last time I tried > > > > to used the net install disk the e1000e driver I was unable to detect my > > > > network card and the Debian setup insisted that I was to use Ethernet > > over > > > > Firewire. > > Would be nice to have a 'snapshot' feature to revert to. I have used > aptitude > > (dselect) to get close to a standard install, base + standard is not that > many > > packages, no X. > > > > It is a bit tedious, but it can be done, Search for and purge xorg, gnome > stuff. > > Aptitude remembers packages that have been installed as recommends and will > prompt > > you to offer to remove them. 'deborphan' can help find & remove orphaned > > libraries. > > > > > > -- > > Peace > > > > Greg Madden > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmaster(a)lists.debian.org > > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/201003191448.54996.gomadtroll(a)acsalaska.net > > > > -M > > _________________________________________________________________ > IM on the go with Messenger on your phone > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712960 -- Peace Greg Madden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003191828.20726.gomadtroll(a)acsalaska.net
From: Mike Viau on 19 Mar 2010 22:30 > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:13:49 -0500 <ron.l.johnson(a)cox.net> wrote: > > >> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:48:54 -0900 <gomadtroll(a)acsalaska.net> wrote: > >> > >> Would be nice to have a 'snapshot' feature to revert to. I have used aptitude > >> (dselect) to get close to a standard install, base + standard is not that many > >> packages, no X. > >> > > > > Yes I agree it would be a very handy feature. What is the debian-user mailing list members thoughts on creating a feature request for such a feature. > > > > I see no purpose, when you can do this at any time: > COLUMNS=180 dpkg -l | grep ^i | \ > cut -c4-44 > installed.packages.`date +"%Y%M%d-%H%m"` > > Since that's obviously a pain to write, put it in an alias. > > -- > Obsession with "preserving cultural heritage" is a racist impediment > to moral, physical and intellectual progress. > > > -- Ron, How would you revert your system to using only the packages mentioned in your snapshot? Your output looks identical to "dpkg--get-selections" without the word install on each line. -M _________________________________________________________________ IM on the go with Messenger on your phone http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712960
First
|
Prev
|
Next
|
Last
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 Prev: bash scripting question Next: Kernel headers for 2.6.32-trunk-686? |