From: nospam on
In article <4jcm36hglr7657vgupbf3j143h3j7uk0q3(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >From a UI perspective, buttons are better for some things, but that
> >doesn't automatically mean that a 'button' UI is better for ALL
> >inputs. The exercise is left to the reader to go replace a car's
> >steering _wheel_ with Left & Right buttons :-)
>
> Fly by wire with a joystick works quite well, and has been used in some
> cars.

right on cue.
From: George Kerby on



On 7/12/10 11:02 AM, in article 120720100902258672%nospam(a)nospam.invalid,
"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <4jcm36hglr7657vgupbf3j143h3j7uk0q3(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
> <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>> From a UI perspective, buttons are better for some things, but that
>>> doesn't automatically mean that a 'button' UI is better for ALL
>>> inputs. The exercise is left to the reader to go replace a car's
>>> steering _wheel_ with Left & Right buttons :-)
>>
>> Fly by wire with a joystick works quite well, and has been used in some
>> cars.
>
> right on cue.

Pavlov Puppet is NavASS...

From: Peter on
"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:khdm36l9t9nes6arfmrgjdig9su4g6r2fh(a)4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:20:09 -0700, John Navas
> <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 13:02:25 -0700 (PDT), in
>><b57aaa3f-f383-436c-a7fb-1322a3a5cd05(a)c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, -hh
>><recscuba_google(a)huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 9, 1:05 pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In article <5aje36h1eg3io6i5phlp3vi94vdhmgk...(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
>>>>
>>>> <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>> > >The automotive analogy here is also illustrative: take a look at our
>>>> > >car's sound system controls: originally, our old analog radio
>>>> > >systems
>>>> > >used a dial-based volume control ... a potentiometer. With
>>>> > >digitalization, this analog dial component was replaced with up/down
>>>> > >pushbuttons. But look now at today's controls and we find that
>>>> > >they've gotten rid of the volume pushbuttons and gone back to a
>>>> > >human
>>>> > >interface for the radio's volume control that's once again a dial.
>>>> > >Hmmm...
>>>>
>>>> > Mine has buttons for stations, seek and scan, plus buttons on the
>>>> > steering wheel for station change. I can't remember the last time
>>>> > I twisted a volume knob. I'm guessing they are for Luddites that
>>>> > can't
>>>> > learn new things.
>>>>
>>>> pejorative comment noted.
>>>
>>>And yet John conveniently failed to mention how his car's radio's
>>>**volume** control is actually performed.
>>
>>The volume I use is two pushbuttons on the steering wheel.
>
> What a weasel. Is there, or is there not, a volume knob on the radio?
>


He's playing with his joystick

--
Peter