How to tell a rank amateur from a seasoned one, or a pro
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From: RichA on 20 Jun 2010 23:41 The original poster is a rank amateur. He argues against a point made later in the thread in favour of the 7-14mm Panasonic versus the 9-18mm Olympus. The Panasonic is an enthusiast, even a pro lens. The Olympus is a kit lens. 14-18mm lenses (equivalent on a FF) were never meant as "walk around lenses." 14-18mm lenses are specific tools meant for very narrowly defined tasks involving extreme angles, they are not frigging "street shooting" lenses. We've become spoiled because these kinds of wide angles weren't available to amateurs for cheap prices until recently (the last 10 years or so). Prior to that, they were high priced prime lenses that rarely saw the inside of an amateur's bag. It's no wonder current owners (some of them) don't have a clue as to their actual purpose. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=35620547
From: John Navas on 20 Jun 2010 23:44 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:41:20 -0700 (PDT), in <ccd9a097-d27c-4940-8488-d3124e49cd48(a)e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote: >The original poster is a rank amateur. He argues against a point made >later in the thread in favour of the 7-14mm Panasonic versus the >9-18mm Olympus. The Panasonic is an enthusiast, even a pro lens. The >Olympus is a kit lens. 14-18mm lenses (equivalent on a FF) were never >meant as "walk around lenses." 14-18mm lenses are specific tools meant >for very narrowly defined tasks involving extreme angles, they are not >frigging "street shooting" lenses. We've become spoiled because these >kinds of wide angles weren't available to amateurs for cheap prices >until recently (the last 10 years or so). Prior to that, they were >high priced prime lenses that rarely saw the inside of an amateur's >bag. It's no wonder current owners (some of them) don't have a clue >as to their actual purpose. > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=35620547 This matters ... why? -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: Mike Russell on 21 Jun 2010 00:47 By looking at their images. -- Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com
From: Outing Trolls is FUN! on 21 Jun 2010 01:30 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:41:20 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote: >The original poster is a rank amateur. He argues against a point made >later in the thread in favour of the 7-14mm Panasonic versus the Wrong. All rank amateurs are more concerned with equipment than the photographs they are trying to create, no matter what camera and lens might be in their hands.
From: RichA on 21 Jun 2010 13:09
On Jun 20, 11:44 pm, John Navas <jn...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:41:20 -0700 (PDT), in > <ccd9a097-d27c-4940-8488-d3124e49c...(a)e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, > > RichA <rander3...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >The original poster is a rank amateur. He argues against a point made > >later in the thread in favour of the 7-14mm Panasonic versus the > >9-18mm Olympus. The Panasonic is an enthusiast, even a pro lens. The > >Olympus is a kit lens. 14-18mm lenses (equivalent on a FF) were never > >meant as "walk around lenses." 14-18mm lenses are specific tools meant > >for very narrowly defined tasks involving extreme angles, they are not > >frigging "street shooting" lenses. We've become spoiled because these > >kinds of wide angles weren't available to amateurs for cheap prices > >until recently (the last 10 years or so). Prior to that, they were > >high priced prime lenses that rarely saw the inside of an amateur's > >bag. It's no wonder current owners (some of them) don't have a clue > >as to their actual purpose. > > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=35620547 > > This matters ... why? > Because it's there? Why does anything matter? |