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From: BURT on 19 Mar 2010 16:12 On Mar 19, 12:59 pm, Larry <no...(a)home.com> wrote: > "HVAC" <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote innews:ho0dch$p99$1(a)hvac.motzarella.org: > > > The REAL problem is that there's too many people. > > > We need a huge global war or plague to solve this problem. > > > Personally, I'd vote for war. Plague doesn't play well on CNN. > > War the moneyed elite USED to be able to keep their families out of until > the invention of the ICBM/Cruise missiles and atomic weapons. The reason > you don't see that global war, now, is there's no way to stop it from > crashing their investments, so they'd lose what's most dear to them....$$$$ > > Plague is harder to control, as they already know from the Middle Ages, but > they have labs still working on the problem 24/7, medical weapons we only > hear snippets about that can be "conspiracy theoried" away on the > propaganda media channels of that billboard in your living room. > > There's gotta be a "better solution". They'll find it, eventually. I'm > lucky I'm old. > > -- > "iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!" > > Larry Science will not tell you that God isn't going to let mankind or any other world end. This is the promiss in the bible. Mitch Raemsch
From: Raymond Yohros on 19 Mar 2010 16:24 On Mar 19, 9:12 am, James Burns <burns...(a)osu.edu> wrote: > HVAC wrote: > > But that's not the end, according to University of Michigan > > astrophysicist Fred Adams. An expert on the fate of the cosmos and co- > > author with Greg Laughlin of The Five Ages of the Universe (Touchstone > > Books; 2000), Adams predicts that all this dead matter will eventually > > collapse into black holes. By the time the universe is 1 trillion > > trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion years old, the black > > holes themselves will disintegrate into stray particles, which will > > bind loosely to form individual "atoms" larger than the size of > > today's universe. Eventually, even these will decay, leaving a > > featureless, infinitely large void. > > >http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101010625/story.html > > Some say the world will end in fire, > Some say in ice. > From what Ive tasted of desire > I hold with those who favor fire. > But if it had to perish twice, > I think I know enough of hate > To know that for destruction ice > Is also great > And would suffice. > It all depends on the perspective youre looking at expanding means into the cold and collapsing means back to the bb (fire) spacetime follows the same path as matenergy no end, no begining what may seem like and end or begining are just two opposite key stages in a universe that goes on forever r.y
From: BURT on 19 Mar 2010 16:31 On Mar 19, 1:24 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > On Mar 19, 9:12 am, James Burns <burns...(a)osu.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > HVAC wrote: > > > But that's not the end, according to University of Michigan > > > astrophysicist Fred Adams. An expert on the fate of the cosmos and co- > > > author with Greg Laughlin of The Five Ages of the Universe (Touchstone > > > Books; 2000), Adams predicts that all this dead matter will eventually > > > collapse into black holes. By the time the universe is 1 trillion > > > trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion years old, the black > > > holes themselves will disintegrate into stray particles, which will > > > bind loosely to form individual "atoms" larger than the size of > > > today's universe. Eventually, even these will decay, leaving a > > > featureless, infinitely large void. > > > >http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101010625/story.html > > > Some say the world will end in fire, > > Some say in ice. > > From what Ive tasted of desire > > I hold with those who favor fire. > > But if it had to perish twice, > > I think I know enough of hate > > To know that for destruction ice > > Is also great > > And would suffice. > > It all depends on the perspective youre looking at > expanding means into the cold > and collapsing means back to the bb (fire) > > spacetime follows the same path as matenergy > no end, no begining > what may seem like and end or begining are just two > opposite key stages in a universe that goes on forever > > r.y- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - In Himself God created that forever already. Mitch Raemsch
From: unviable tissue mass on 19 Mar 2010 16:35 This discussion must include the "MULTIVERSE" concept, which astro- folks are touting as a possible add-on to our knowledge of time and space, which many believe has no beginning and no end. And certainly no "creator."
From: BURT on 19 Mar 2010 16:40
On Mar 19, 1:35 pm, unviable tissue mass <perryneh...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > This discussion must include the "MULTIVERSE" concept, which astro- > folks are touting as a possible add-on to our knowledge of time and > space, which many believe has no beginning and no end. > > And certainly no "creator." No. There is only one universe just as there is only one Creator. Mitch Raemsch |