From: Jim Burns on
BURT wrote:

> God does not need to prove that He exists.

Right you are, BURT, for once:
God does not need to prove that He exists,
because God does not need -- or want --
any of us to believe in Him.

So, BURT, do you believe in God?

And, if you do, why do you believe?
Aren't you sort of spitting in God's Face
by believing in Him, when He has made it
clear that He does not /want/ you to
believe in Him?

Jim Burns


From: H. on

"Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <science(a)zzz.com>
wrote in message
news:adac9173-b5e6-472a-8742-dbd182579b97(a)h35g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 19, 4:46 am, HVAC <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> But that's not the end, according to University of
> Michigan
> astrophysicist Fred Adams. An expert on the fate of
> the cosmos and co-
> author with Greg Laughlin of The Five Ages of the
> Universe (Touchstone
> Books; 2000), Adams predicts that all this dead
> matter will eventually
> collapse into black holes. By the time the universe
> is 1 trillion
> trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion years
> old, the black
> holes themselves will disintegrate into stray
> particles, which will
> bind loosely to form individual "atoms" larger than
> the size of
> today's universe. Eventually, even these will decay,
> leaving a
> featureless, infinitely large void.
>
> http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101010625/story.html

Completely wrong, the Universe will not end. In fact,
the entire
Universe will be liberated the day the very last
debunker is expunged
from This Island Universe, or mutli-verse! Although it
may be a
wonderful idea to put all debunkers into a rocket-ship
and send them
into a black hole. I will bring this up at the next
staff meeting at
the Octagon�! VD-VAC, whoever would have thought that
you would come
up with an original idea, at least in a
trillion-trillion years.

========================================================
Permission for Holeflapper to pilot spaceship into
black hole is granted.
H.



From: BURT on
On Mar 20, 2:53 pm, clivevrob <clivevrobin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Not hard to figure that there is no god, as far as I'm concerned.
>
> End of the universe? For our universe, it's the big rip
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rip
>
> for elementary introduction

The universe doesn't end because of God.

Mitch Raemsch
From: Painius on
"Jim Burns" <burns.87(a)osu.edu> wrote in message
news:ho5o64$3kl$1(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> BURT wrote:
>
>> God does not need to prove that He exists.
>
> Right you are, BURT, for once:
> God does not need to prove that He exists,
> because God does not need -- or want --
> any of us to believe in Him.
>
> So, BURT, do you believe in God?
>
> And, if you do, why do you believe?
> Aren't you sort of spitting in God's Face
> by believing in Him, when He has made it
> clear that He does not /want/ you to
> believe in Him?
>
> Jim Burns

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Whoa, whoa, hold up their JB... of *course* God *wants*
people to believe in her (or him ATCMB). That much is
quite obvious. However God has made it clear through
teachings about her in various religions that the belief
*must* be based on "F A I T H", which in my little black
book means "T R U S T".

Trust and faith automatically rules out any and all types
and kinds of "hard" evidence that God might leave lying
around for people to find.

Of course, it's not a very long leap for a believer who
really looks hard enough to go from pure faith to finding
what s/he believes is very hard evidence. And problems
with such evidence include being able to use it to
convince non-believers. So it's only "hard" evidence to
those who already have FAITH/TRUST that God exists.

Believers just can't understand why non-believers can't
see the "hard" in their "evidence".

hth

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting
to be known." > Carl Sagan

P.P.S.: http://Astronomy.painellsworth.net
http://PoisonFalls.painellsworth.net
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth


From: clivevrob on
On Mar 21, 6:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2:53 pm, clivevrob <clivevrobin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Not hard to figure that there is no god, as far as I'm concerned.
>
> > End of the universe? For our universe, it's the big rip
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rip
>
> > for elementary introduction
>
> The universe doesn't end because of God.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

You guys and your imaginary friends, I don't believe in fairy stories
though