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From: Jim Burns on 21 Mar 2010 14:22 BURT wrote: > God does not need to prove that He exists. Right you are, BURT, for once: God does not need to prove that He exists, because God does not need -- or want -- any of us to believe in Him. So, BURT, do you believe in God? And, if you do, why do you believe? Aren't you sort of spitting in God's Face by believing in Him, when He has made it clear that He does not /want/ you to believe in Him? Jim Burns
From: H. on 21 Mar 2010 14:33 "Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <science(a)zzz.com> wrote in message news:adac9173-b5e6-472a-8742-dbd182579b97(a)h35g2000pri.googlegroups.com... On Mar 19, 4:46 am, HVAC <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > But that's not the end, according to University of > Michigan > astrophysicist Fred Adams. An expert on the fate of > the cosmos and co- > author with Greg Laughlin of The Five Ages of the > Universe (Touchstone > Books; 2000), Adams predicts that all this dead > matter will eventually > collapse into black holes. By the time the universe > is 1 trillion > trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion years > old, the black > holes themselves will disintegrate into stray > particles, which will > bind loosely to form individual "atoms" larger than > the size of > today's universe. Eventually, even these will decay, > leaving a > featureless, infinitely large void. > > http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101010625/story.html Completely wrong, the Universe will not end. In fact, the entire Universe will be liberated the day the very last debunker is expunged from This Island Universe, or mutli-verse! Although it may be a wonderful idea to put all debunkers into a rocket-ship and send them into a black hole. I will bring this up at the next staff meeting at the Octagon�! VD-VAC, whoever would have thought that you would come up with an original idea, at least in a trillion-trillion years. ======================================================== Permission for Holeflapper to pilot spaceship into black hole is granted. H.
From: BURT on 21 Mar 2010 14:52 On Mar 20, 2:53 pm, clivevrob <clivevrobin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Not hard to figure that there is no god, as far as I'm concerned. > > End of the universe? For our universe, it's the big rip > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rip > > for elementary introduction The universe doesn't end because of God. Mitch Raemsch
From: Painius on 21 Mar 2010 16:22 "Jim Burns" <burns.87(a)osu.edu> wrote in message news:ho5o64$3kl$1(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > BURT wrote: > >> God does not need to prove that He exists. > > Right you are, BURT, for once: > God does not need to prove that He exists, > because God does not need -- or want -- > any of us to believe in Him. > > So, BURT, do you believe in God? > > And, if you do, why do you believe? > Aren't you sort of spitting in God's Face > by believing in Him, when He has made it > clear that He does not /want/ you to > believe in Him? > > Jim Burns $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Whoa, whoa, hold up their JB... of *course* God *wants* people to believe in her (or him ATCMB). That much is quite obvious. However God has made it clear through teachings about her in various religions that the belief *must* be based on "F A I T H", which in my little black book means "T R U S T". Trust and faith automatically rules out any and all types and kinds of "hard" evidence that God might leave lying around for people to find. Of course, it's not a very long leap for a believer who really looks hard enough to go from pure faith to finding what s/he believes is very hard evidence. And problems with such evidence include being able to use it to convince non-believers. So it's only "hard" evidence to those who already have FAITH/TRUST that God exists. Believers just can't understand why non-believers can't see the "hard" in their "evidence". hth happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Indelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." > Carl Sagan P.P.S.: http://Astronomy.painellsworth.net http://PoisonFalls.painellsworth.net http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth
From: clivevrob on 21 Mar 2010 19:21
On Mar 21, 6:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 20, 2:53 pm, clivevrob <clivevrobin...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Not hard to figure that there is no god, as far as I'm concerned. > > > End of the universe? For our universe, it's the big rip > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rip > > > for elementary introduction > > The universe doesn't end because of God. > > Mitch Raemsch You guys and your imaginary friends, I don't believe in fairy stories though |