From: Mark Shore on
In common with - I assume - the majority of readers I read this forum solely for its content. Its search mechanisms are adequate, and I quickly learned to live with any formatting issues and limitations.

Personally, I have many more pressing issues than newsgroup formatting.
From: sscnekro on
I agree with you, Mark Shore, each of us has different preferences and it could be, if I shared the profession and background of the majority of readers, I'd quickly learn to live with any such issues and *limitations*, too (nice that you used that word). Please just don't take offence at it when I from time to time hit on this topic. The discussion the link to which I first posted under this thread just made me up. For me it sounded like if in a restaurant they sincerely asked you where you would expect to be able to find your steak. The answer was obvious, and Steve Eddins made the point: On my plate. At the same time I know that Steven Lord is always constructive and the remark was well-meant.

> Personally, I have many more pressing issues than newsgroup formatting.

And may I ask, what are these? I mean in the event you refer to some issues associated with ML, the newsgroup or FEX (not just whatever pressing issues in your life). If you don't mind, just write back on them. I learn quite a lot from these discussions. At mine and surrouding departments there are no other guys using Matlab, so for me it's perfect (and a TRUE RESCUE) that this community as exists. (Pls note the distinction btw community / newsgroup / fex existence as such and web page design.)
From: Steven Lord on

"sscnekro " <stiahni.mail(a)zoznam.sk> wrote in message
news:huj2bs$noe$1(a)fred.mathworks.com...
> Hi, Walter Roberson,
>
> I can imagine your point of view. If I shared your profession, I think I
> would view webpages, newgroups etc. by the same eyes and I would probably
> feel similarily irritated by the message I posted. With all respect to
> your huge experience as a networking guru, I dare to fancy that
> http://www.mathworks.com/ and http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/
> including - - is it called subpages? - - can be termed as web pages which
> I myself personally find messy and badly done in terms of design.

That's your opinion, and you are absolutely free to feel the way you do.


But to use an analogy, suppose you completed a task that your boss had
assigned to you, and you presented it to your boss, and he or she said "No,
this is wrong. Do it over." Wouldn't you want to know what specific
problems your boss had with your work (or on the flip side, how your boss
expected the work to be done) so you could focus on fixing those problems or
meeting those expectations, rather than trying to read his or her mind?
[After all, as we all know, the Mind Reading Toolbox is not ready yet :]

When someone says "Your webpage is bad. You should change it." that's
similar to the boss saying "No, this is wrong. Do it over." My question to
Kian (which you quoted in your original posting in this thread) was an
attempt to learn Kian's expectations so that we could consider ways to
better satisfy them.

So let me ask you directly. You said you dislike the design of the sites.
What, SPECIFICALLY, do YOU dislike? What are YOUR expectations? Don't be
general and say "I don't like the page." -- for example, if you think the
search box on the page should be 50% larger, then state that specific
criticism. I can't guarantee that your criticisms will result in changes to
MATLAB Central -- but they may.

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From: dpb on
sscnekro wrote:
> Hi, dpb,
>
> thanks for your suggestion. I think I understand your viewpoint.
>
> Well, what prevents *her* from writing whatever front end is the lil
> cute - - referring the published price list - -4900 / 7950 price for
> the lil cute product incl. packages paid to MathWorks. Tell me on earth,
> why should I need to move a finger for that? On the other hand, it makes
> fun to make fun about these guys.

"He" was intended in the editorial sense...

Seems like a lot of fuss over what is, essentially, "eye candy" afaict.

Perhaps you should apply for the position of web designer for TMW? :)

Since, owing to location and that I've retired from active consulting,
I'm stuck on dialup since can't justify the cost of highspeed w/o a
revenue stream I rarely look at the web site.

Perhaps (well, no "perhaps" about it, it's definite :) ) I don't
understand why a user of ML would spend any significant amount of time
at the website routinely, any way, other than at either cssm portal
(which is better viewed w/ newsreader, anyway) or perhaps an occasional
search at the FEX. What else is there other than documentation (which
I'd presume was installed locally and afaik the link to that online is
the same as that w/ the product)?

What really is there to be gained by revamping the web site is what I'm
trying to figure out? How would it help w/ the "real" job?

I've had an account w/ TMW for nearly as long as TMW has been online; I
have to say I couldn't have told you I _have_ a password; certainly I've
never worried about changing it? This is a big deal somehow???

--
From: Mark Shore on
"sscnekro " <stiahni.mail(a)zoznam.sk> wrote in message <huj4r3$f9n$1(a)fred.mathworks.com>...
>
> > Personally, I have many more pressing issues than newsgroup formatting.
>
> And may I ask, what are these? I mean in the event you refer to some issues associated with ML, the newsgroup or FEX (not just whatever pressing issues in your life). If you don't mind, just write back on them. I learn quite a lot from these discussions. At mine and surrouding departments there are no other guys using Matlab, so for me it's perfect (and a TRUE RESCUE) that this community as exists. (Pls note the distinction btw community / newsgroup / fex existence as such and web page design.)

I was referring to the actual work that I try to do with MATLAB and other tools. Interesting as it might be, MATLAB is a means, not an end.