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From: Graeme on 5 Jul 2010 17:17
In message <1jl6fxo.12ix0ndgcrcz3N%real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk>
real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote:

> Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote:
>
> > Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid>:
> > > Adrian C <email(a)here.invalid> wrote:
> > >> >> The new 8 GB iPhone 3GS is available, and its NZ price dropped somewhat
> > >
> > >> However, not too far away in that part of the world is UAE, Dubai.
> > >
> > > Where exactly do you think New Zealand is?
> >
> > And, rather more alarmingly, why do all the people I've ever met from there
> > pronounce my name `Bin'?
>
> I presumed that someone called "Ben (or Bin) Shimmin" would probably be
> Jewish, but apparently Shimmin is Manx rather than Hebrew.
>

It's a name laden with unfortunate associations...

--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>
From: D.M. Procida on 6 Jul 2010 02:57
Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> > > And, rather more alarmingly, why do all the people I've ever met from
> > > there pronounce my name `Bin'?
> >
> > I presumed that someone called "Ben (or Bin) Shimmin" would probably be
> > Jewish, but apparently Shimmin is Manx rather than Hebrew.
> >
>
> It's a name laden with unfortunate associations...

If you mean bin or ben, then it's a part of most formal Arabic, Muslim
and Jewish names across the world and through history.

I'm not aware of any notorious Shimmins, but perhaps Ben is saving it up
for later.

Daniele
From: Chris Ridd on 6 Jul 2010 03:05
On 2010-07-06 07:57:40 +0100, D.M. Procida said:

> Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> And, rather more alarmingly, why do all the people I've ever met from
>>>> there pronounce my name `Bin'?
>>>
>>> I presumed that someone called "Ben (or Bin) Shimmin" would probably be
>>> Jewish, but apparently Shimmin is Manx rather than Hebrew.
>>>
>>
>> It's a name laden with unfortunate associations...
> If you mean bin or ben, then it's a part of most formal Arabic, Muslim
> and Jewish names across the world and through history.
> I'm not aware of any notorious Shimmins, but perhaps Ben is saving it up
> for later.

Google doesn't find much in the way of "notorious Shimmin"s, to be sure.

--
Chris

From: Graeme on 6 Jul 2010 03:11
In message <1jl76yc.ejmlmvs0lvN%real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk>
real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote:

> Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > And, rather more alarmingly, why do all the people I've ever met from
> > > > there pronounce my name `Bin'?
> > >
> > > I presumed that someone called "Ben (or Bin) Shimmin" would probably be
> > > Jewish, but apparently Shimmin is Manx rather than Hebrew.
> > >
> >
> > It's a name laden with unfortunate associations...
>
> If you mean bin or ben, then it's a part of most formal Arabic, Muslim
> and Jewish names across the world and through history.

Wooooosh!

>
> I'm not aware of any notorious Shimmins, but perhaps Ben is saving it up
> for later.
>

Wasn't it a Shimmin who stole all the cats' tails on the island?

--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>
From: Ben Shimmin on 6 Jul 2010 03:45
Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk>:
> real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote:
>> Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> > It's a name laden with unfortunate associations...
>>
>> If you mean bin or ben, then it's a part of most formal Arabic, Muslim
>> and Jewish names across the world and through history.
>
> Wooooosh!

Ah, I see what you did there (`Bin Laden').

>> I'm not aware of any notorious Shimmins, but perhaps Ben is saving it up
>> for later.
>
> Wasn't it a Shimmin who stole all the cats' tails on the island?

Manx cats originated on the Isle of Man, off the coast of Great
Britain, among a population of cats whose common ancestry sprang from
the same roots as the British Shorthair. A spontaneous mutation
occurred at some point several hundred years ago, which created
kittens born without the vertebrae that form the tail of normal
cats. With the passage of centuries and due to the isolation of the
cats from outside breeding, the taillessness eventually became a
common characteristic among the Isle of Man cats, because the mutated
gene is a dominant trait.

I'm happy to take the credit if you like, though. (I haven't ever
actually been to the Isle of Man, however.)

b.

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