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From: nospam on 20 Oct 2009 14:22 In article <djtrd5987samm98q6toadkb31d6n8d6bse(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> which means we can be shooting at ISO 400 with the > >> right focal length while the typical dSLR user is pushed to ISO 3200 > >> with the wrong focal length. > > > >a modern dslr at iso 3200 will have comparable or even less noise than > >a typical compact at iso 400, and can go much higher. the sensor is > >much larger and therefore has a much better s/n ratio. it's basic > >physics. > > Wrong on both counts. it's exactly correct. > >> An infinite dSLR kit is totally impractical for the great majority of > >> people, and thus disingenuous and meaningless. > > > >straw man. nobody carries 'an infinite dslr kit'. > > Then why persist is making such comparisons? > Is it so hard and necessary to justify your dSLR? i'm not justifying anything. you are attempting to justify your compact camera, with some very bizarre claims.
From: John Navas on 20 Oct 2009 14:28 On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:10:27 -0800, floyd(a)apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in <87ljj62ay4.fld(a)apaflo.com>: >John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >>Crusading for either dSLR or compact digital is childish and silly. > >Why are you always doing exactly that? I'm guessing you see it that way because you don't like what I'm saying. ;) >>Henri Henri Cartier-Bresson and Constantine Manos famously used the >>Contax T, the film equivalent of a super compact P&S. > >Cartier-Bresson use a Leica rangefinder with a 50mm lens for >virtually all of his work. At the time he began using it, it >was essentially the top of the line 35mm camera and in no way >was similar to the position of a "super compact P&S". Again, we'll just have to agree to disagree. >>What matters most is the workman, not the tool. > >You seem to have the wrong tools to be classified >as a craftsman. You must feel terribly threatened to be so desperate to belittle others. -- Best regards, John <http:/navasgroup.com> "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." -Mark Twain
From: John Navas on 20 Oct 2009 14:29 On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:22:54 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in <201020091122549001%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>: >In article <9msrd5p8cohc5ajpmi5ktq3bamamqq5avu(a)4ax.com>, John Navas ><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> Crusading for either dSLR or compact digital is childish and silly. > >so why do you persist in your crusade? > >> Henri Henri Cartier-Bresson and Constantine Manos famously used the >> Contax T, the film equivalent of a super compact P&S. > >invalid comparison. with film, *all* cameras had the same 'sensor,' >something which is *not* true with digital. > >you didn't see them toting something like a 110 instamatic or minox, >which had 'smaller sensors.' Straw man. Sensor size isn't the point. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on 20 Oct 2009 14:29 On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:22:55 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in <201020091122559091%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>: >In article <n8trd5toqr4kshtpu335vphlr2s8sltt7v(a)4ax.com>, John Navas ><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> A great photographer can take a great photo with an ordinary tool. >> An ordinary photographer can't take a great photo with any tool. > >which means there's no advantage to a compact. you finally see the >light, no pun intended. Wrong again. Oh well. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: nospam on 20 Oct 2009 14:53
In article <fb0sd5l7acdvdvoe67ndug9s1ejfpph67e(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> Henri Henri Cartier-Bresson and Constantine Manos famously used the > >> Contax T, the film equivalent of a super compact P&S. > > > >invalid comparison. with film, *all* cameras had the same 'sensor,' > >something which is *not* true with digital. > > > >you didn't see them toting something like a 110 instamatic or minox, > >which had 'smaller sensors.' > > Straw man. Sensor size isn't the point. of course it's the point, otherwise they'd be using a view camera. |