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From: Ian Gregory on 1 Apr 2010 21:12
On 2010-04-01, John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> Okay whatever. So playing Stratego and many of the good old classics is
> no longer in demand. News to me.

If a "good old classic" is still in demand then it is most likely
available in a modern implementation. If Stratego is your thing then you
can play it online for free on any new Mac - no need to install
anything.

I know some people are into retrogaming [1] and I have no problem with
that - they don't have to "move on" if they don't want to.

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrogaming

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Ian Gregory
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/
From: Barry Margolin on 1 Apr 2010 21:48
In article <jwolf6589-8AE940.21130801042010(a)nntp.charter.net>,
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article <barmar-1293EC.21084401042010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > In article <slrnhr91jm.2a4p.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk>,
> > Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2010-04-01, John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I moved on in 2005. But not all my games and apps moved over.
> > >
> > > The fact that you are looking to run specific ancient games and apps
> > > means you haven't moved on.
> >
> > I've moved on, but I still use Sheepshaver to run Managing Your Money.
> > I'd love to switch to a native financial application, but none of them
> > can import MYM's data (I've searched numerous times for conversion
> > apps). I have 25 years of investments stored in there, so I'm kind of
> > stuck.
>
> Quicken?

Do you really think I didn't consider the most popular money management
application? Do you know something I don't about it having a way to
import financial and investment data from MYM?

I did once find an app that purported to convert MYM data to Quicken
format. But it didn't handle securities, only financial transactions.
And it hasn't been updated, so it's not compatible with current versions
of Quicken.

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Arlington, MA
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kir=E1ly?= on 2 Apr 2010 13:23
In comp.sys.mac.system John Albert <j.albert(a)snet.net> wrote:
> I find it odd that with all the "Windows-on-the-Mac"
> solutions out there, there has been no relatively
> easy-to-setup-and-use solution for Classic apps on the Intel
> Macs (yes, there is Sheepshaver, but it ain't "easy"). There
> _is_ a market for such an emulator/app.

Windows is a modern OS that the majority of the personal computing world
uses everyday. OS 9 is an obsolete OS that was discontinued more than a
decade ago. Yes, there might be some demand/market for OS 9
compatibility on Macs today, but to try to comparte it with
demand/market for Windows compatibility is just silly.

If there was significant demand for an easy-to-use OS 9 emulator for
Intel Macs, you can bet your boots that somebody would have developed a
commercial solution for it and would be making money off it today. That
fact that that isn't happening should tell you about the actual
demand/market for such a thing, especially when you consider that old
Mac hardware can run OS 9 natively can be had for pennies.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.
From: John Wolf on 2 Apr 2010 15:15
On 3/31/10 9:42 PM, John wrote:
> While its nice that something like Sheephaver exists, the truth is that
> its no replacement for Classic. I have apps that worked beautifully in
> Classic that do not run in SheepShaver, or do not run properly. And I
> have apps that never ran in Classic that work great in SheepShaver (some
> old games would be an example).
>
> Yes I agree that SL kicks Classics butt. However I miss Photoshop,
> Accordance and some of my other apps that will cost me a pretty penny to
> replace, or do not have a OSX replacement (Street Atlas USA for one) and
> my old games.
>
> I wish some mac developing company would produce a commercial program
> than would allow me to run my old classic games and apps. I would pay
> the bucks for it if something decent were produced.
>
> But the advantage to my new Mac is that I can run Windows and perhaps
> one day I will give this Fusion a shot and hope that it works allot
> better than Parallels did, which was a dog slow experience with only
> 2MB's of RAM. But Parallels did have many features thta may be mssing
> from Fusion.
>
>
> John

cool
From: Bill who putters on 2 Apr 2010 16:02
In article <Pnrtn.174043$wr5.48360(a)newsfe22.iad>,
John Wolf <jwolf6589(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3/31/10 9:42 PM, John wrote:
> > While its nice that something like Sheephaver exists, the truth is that
> > its no replacement for Classic. I have apps that worked beautifully in
> > Classic that do not run in SheepShaver, or do not run properly. And I
> > have apps that never ran in Classic that work great in SheepShaver (some
> > old games would be an example).
> >
> > Yes I agree that SL kicks Classics butt. However I miss Photoshop,
> > Accordance and some of my other apps that will cost me a pretty penny to
> > replace, or do not have a OSX replacement (Street Atlas USA for one) and
> > my old games.
> >
> > I wish some mac developing company would produce a commercial program
> > than would allow me to run my old classic games and apps. I would pay
> > the bucks for it if something decent were produced.
> >
> > But the advantage to my new Mac is that I can run Windows and perhaps
> > one day I will give this Fusion a shot and hope that it works allot
> > better than Parallels did, which was a dog slow experience with only
> > 2MB's of RAM. But Parallels did have many features thta may be mssing
> > from Fusion.
> >
> >
> > John
>
> cool

My loss was the ability to run CD from Voyager. The old stack stuff
with neat ideas. Anyway the author was able to get it to run without
the CD. Just wondering if the tool to run some other classic stuff is
about.

Seems this too is gone now.

http://www.rivertext.com/

But I can run it on Intel g5 machine without the CD that I down loaded
4 months ago.

Clueless.

--
Bill Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
"I have always looked upon decay as being just as wonderful
and rich an expression of life as growth" Henry Miller

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