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From: Jim on 19 Apr 2010 07:15 On 2010-04-19, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: >>I'm not convinced, though. As someone else pointed out, building a >>Hackintosh isn't exactly hard nowadays, but you wouldn't even have to do >>that - I expect someone has got OS X going well in a VM. > > I had 10.3 going in a PearPC G3-emulating VM before ever owning an OSX > Mac, so it's been possible for a loooong time. Oooh, nifty. >>It could be though. Familiarity is a strong motivating factor, I guess. > > Possibly also the feel amongst script-kiddies that Macs are toys and > not worth poking at? I dunno. Much of it is purely commercial nowadays - set up a botnet of a few hundred thousand machines and you can do what you want - DDoS, spam, etc. Jim -- Twitter:@GreyAreaUK "[The MP4-12C] will be fitted with all manner of pointlessly shiny buttons that light up and a switch that says 'sport mode' that isn't connected to anything." The Daily Mash.
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 19 Apr 2010 07:17 On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:15:53 +0100, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: >On 2010-04-19, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: >>>I'm not convinced, though. As someone else pointed out, building a >>>Hackintosh isn't exactly hard nowadays, but you wouldn't even have to do >>>that - I expect someone has got OS X going well in a VM. >> >> I had 10.3 going in a PearPC G3-emulating VM before ever owning an OSX >> Mac, so it's been possible for a loooong time. > >Oooh, nifty. It was a bit crunchy (running on a dual P4-type Xeons(a)3.4GHz, 2gig, tail end of 2004) but enough to set me to buying a G4 Mini with 10.4 not long after. >>>It could be though. Familiarity is a strong motivating factor, I guess. >> >> Possibly also the feel amongst script-kiddies that Macs are toys and >> not worth poking at? I dunno. > >Much of it is purely commercial nowadays - set up a botnet of a few hundred >thousand machines and you can do what you want - DDoS, spam, etc. Yep. And this is the market that really wants control of home PCs more than work ones. So it's another oddity that there isn't anyone concentrating on zombifying the very very home friendly Apple market. Cheers - Jaimie -- I like my coffee how I like my women... but I can't get coffee that's independent, intelligent and has a career of its own. - Eric Jarvis, urs
From: Pd on 19 Apr 2010 07:18 Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > On 18/04/2010 20:08, Peter Ceresole wrote: > > Wake up, Conor. > > You're the one who should wake up. No you wake up. I know you are, but what am I? My dad can beat your dad. You and whose army? Your mum smells. Umm, what have I missed? > Have a read, fanboi <http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1601569/apple-di ps-microsoft-security-standards> Oh, fantastic! This is the best a windoze "fanboi" can come up with? > that paragon of bug-infested software, Microsoft. > That's a pretty damning critique considering the company to which Maiffret > compares the cappuccino firm. So my original criticism of Microsoft is brilliantly refuted by pointing to an Apple-antifanboi rant about how Apple are as bad if not worse than "that paragon of bug-infested software". O you make oi larf. Interesting that when the prizes are a MacBook Air for hacking Apple, or a Fujitsu running Vista, the Macbook gets targetted first. I mean, where's the kudos in hacking a Vista Fujitsu, and even if you did, why would you want one? Hackers would rather have the Apple. > fruit themed toymaker I love this. Vicious invective. -- Pd
From: Jim on 19 Apr 2010 07:24 On 2010-04-19, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: >> >>Much of it is purely commercial nowadays - set up a botnet of a few hundred >>thousand machines and you can do what you want - DDoS, spam, etc. > > Yep. And this is the market that really wants control of home PCs more > than work ones. So it's another oddity that there isn't anyone > concentrating on zombifying the very very home friendly Apple market. Exactly. I can only assume that Macs are harder enough to compromise that no-one's putting in the effort. Yet. Jim -- Twitter:@GreyAreaUK "[The MP4-12C] will be fitted with all manner of pointlessly shiny buttons that light up and a switch that says 'sport mode' that isn't connected to anything." The Daily Mash.
From: Pd on 19 Apr 2010 07:23
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > In other words, although Mac OS X is in no way immune, it's still harder > than Windows. Charlie Miller did say he thought the Mac would be easier to hack, although even then it required the user to click on a link. -- Pd |