Infinite worlds, Quantum indeterminacy, and The endlessly generative
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From: Mark Earnest on 7 Mar 2010 14:57 "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... > In article <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d(a)posted.internetamerica>, > "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >> news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >> > In article >> > <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a337(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >> > BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> > >> >> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. >> > >> > Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. >> >> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? > > You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably nonexistent god > says, but only of what it does not say. In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also know what it does.
From: Smiler on 7 Mar 2010 18:48 Mark Earnest wrote: > "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message > news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >> In article <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d(a)posted.internetamerica>, >> "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>> news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>> In article >>>> <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a337(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >>>> BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. >>>> >>>> Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. >>> >>> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? >> >> You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably nonexistent >> god says, but only of what it does not say. > > In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also know > what it does. Nope. There is no requirement to know what non-existent things say, other than they say nothing. -- Smiler The godless one a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
From: Mark Earnest on 7 Mar 2010 19:01 "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message news:rXWkn.317746$Dy7.244291(a)newsfe26.ams2... > Mark Earnest wrote: >> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >> news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>> In article <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d(a)posted.internetamerica>, >>> "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>> news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>> In article >>>>> <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a337(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. >>>>> >>>>> Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. >>>> >>>> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? >>> >>> You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably nonexistent >>> god says, but only of what it does not say. >> >> In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also know >> what it does. > > Nope. There is no requirement to know what non-existent things say, other > than they say nothing. But you can't know what they don't say without first knowing what they do say.
From: Helios on 7 Mar 2010 20:03 On Mar 7, 9:01 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message > > news:rXWkn.317746$Dy7.244291(a)newsfe26.ams2... > > > > > > > Mark Earnest wrote: > >> "Virgil" <Vir...(a)home.esc> wrote in message > >>news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... > >>> In article <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dn...(a)posted.internetamerica>, > >>> "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>> "Virgil" <Vir...(a)home.esc> wrote in message > >>>>news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... > >>>>> In article > >>>>> <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a...(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, > >>>>> BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. > > >>>>> Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. > > >>>> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? > > >>> You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably nonexistent > >>> god says, but only of what it does not say. > > >> In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also know > >> what it does. > > > Nope. There is no requirement to know what non-existent things say, other > > than they say nothing. > > But you can't know what they don't say without first knowing what they do > say.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - God creates the Universe and they are patrolling the creation on their vessels of light and fire- they make Chile stumble to its knees in 27.02.2010, with a 8.8 earthquake 160 seconds duration,killing thousands of people inside their homes, or traveling in cars and being smashed under bridges; then God send a terrible Tsunami 800 km wide, to kill the ones who didn't die on the earthquake- this time The Almighty God, the Merciless, probes He could do Better, by killing hundreds of people while trying to escale in their cars- the waves takes the cars and hurled them up hill and then down hill to the Pacific Ocean, with the cars with the lights on. Then the Almigthy sweaps houses to the ocean, people included, killing childs and people with mud and debris. Afterwards, God make the survivors say " Thank God I am alive", not realizing the Amighty God killed they relatives, sons and wives on the Tsunami. Thanks, Oh God, by your mercy; now those thousands of people that didn't die, are camping on the woods, homeless and in the cold of autumm. The rains are falling, providing sickness to those who love you. Yes, God exists and He knows those hundreds of people that are under the rain and without home, are better now the Tsunami is gone. His organization is as good as it can be. Jesus must be smiling, hand in hand with Virgin Mary, while the Angels smile to one another in the Realm of the Spirits. Let us pray God, brothers, let us pray for earthquakes, Tsunamis, and smashed homes in our future. Because if God its a creation of man, to whom could we attach this tribulations? God must exist, to provide us of hope for the future. If God is only a meme, then Heavens is an illusion and our dead people are really dead and without life eternal. If God didn't exist, we are alone to cope with life. Hurrah to God, the merciful! Hurrah to God, the merciless! Hurrah for the Meme! Theist of the world: your God never existed and you need to awake from your delusion. Heil to Chile.
From: Mark Earnest on 7 Mar 2010 22:27
"Helios" <helios(a)gfn.every1.net> wrote in message news:199587db-177b-430b-a0d3-c3ea446703f2(a)c16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... On Mar 7, 9:01 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message > > news:rXWkn.317746$Dy7.244291(a)newsfe26.ams2... > > > > > > > Mark Earnest wrote: > >> "Virgil" <Vir...(a)home.esc> wrote in message > >>news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... > >>> In article <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dn...(a)posted.internetamerica>, > >>> "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>> "Virgil" <Vir...(a)home.esc> wrote in message > >>>>news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... > >>>>> In article > >>>>> <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a...(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, > >>>>> BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. > > >>>>> Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. > > >>>> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? > > >>> You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably nonexistent > >>> god says, but only of what it does not say. > > >> In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also know > >> what it does. > > > Nope. There is no requirement to know what non-existent things say, > > other > > than they say nothing. > > But you can't know what they don't say without first knowing what they do > say.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - God creates the Universe and they are patrolling the creation on their vessels of light and fire- they make Chile stumble to its knees in 27.02.2010, with a 8.8 earthquake 160 seconds duration,killing thousands of people inside their homes, or traveling in cars and being smashed under bridges; then God send a terrible Tsunami 800 km wide, to kill the ones who didn't die on the earthquake- this time The Almighty God, the Merciless, probes He could do Better, by killing hundreds of people while trying to escale in their cars- the waves takes the cars and hurled them up hill and then down hill to the Pacific Ocean, with the cars with the lights on. Then the Almigthy sweaps houses to the ocean, people included, killing childs and people with mud and debris. Afterwards, God make the survivors say " Thank God I am alive", not realizing the Amighty God killed they relatives, sons and wives on the Tsunami. Thanks, Oh God, by your mercy; now those thousands of people that didn't die, are camping on the woods, homeless and in the cold of autumm. The rains are falling, providing sickness to those who love you. Yes, God exists and He knows those hundreds of people that are under the rain and without home, are better now the Tsunami is gone. His organization is as good as it can be. Jesus must be smiling, hand in hand with Virgin Mary, while the Angels smile to one another in the Realm of the Spirits. Let us pray God, brothers, let us pray for earthquakes, Tsunamis, and smashed homes in our future. Because if God its a creation of man, to whom could we attach this tribulations? God must exist, to provide us of hope for the future. If God is only a meme, then Heavens is an illusion and our dead people are really dead and without life eternal. If God didn't exist, we are alone to cope with life. Hurrah to God, the merciful! Hurrah to God, the merciless! Hurrah for the Meme! Theist of the world: your God never existed and you need to awake from your delusion. Heil to Chile. **God isn't going to solve all your problems for you, lazy. |