Infinite worlds, Quantum indeterminacy, and The endlessly generative
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From: Smiler on 8 Mar 2010 19:21 Mark Earnest wrote: > "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message > news:rXWkn.317746$Dy7.244291(a)newsfe26.ams2... >> Mark Earnest wrote: >>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>> news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>> In article >>>> <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d(a)posted.internetamerica>, "Mark >>>> Earnest" <gmearnest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>>> news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>>> In article >>>>>> <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a337(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>> BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. >>>>> >>>>> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? >>>> >>>> You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably nonexistent >>>> god says, but only of what it does not say. >>> >>> In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also know >>> what it does. >> >> Nope. There is no requirement to know what non-existent things say, >> other than they say nothing. > But you can't know what they don't say without first knowing what > they do say. Non-existent things say nothing at all. Unless you know of a non-existent thing that speaks....but that would make it existent. -- Smiler The godless one a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
From: Mark Earnest on 8 Mar 2010 21:43 "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message news:jwgln.333085$Dy7.4270(a)newsfe26.ams2... > Mark Earnest wrote: >> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message >> news:rXWkn.317746$Dy7.244291(a)newsfe26.ams2... >>> Mark Earnest wrote: >>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>> news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>> In article >>>>> <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d(a)posted.internetamerica>, "Mark >>>>> Earnest" <gmearnest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>>>> In article >>>>>>> <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a337(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>> BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. >>>>>> >>>>>> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? >>>>> >>>>> You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably nonexistent >>>>> god says, but only of what it does not say. >>>> >>>> In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also know >>>> what it does. >>> >>> Nope. There is no requirement to know what non-existent things say, >>> other than they say nothing. >> But you can't know what they don't say without first knowing what >> they do say. > > Non-existent things say nothing at all. > Unless you know of a non-existent thing that speaks....but that would make > it existent. You're non existent, and yet you speak. You know you are non existent because you have not yet become...yourself.
From: Smiler on 9 Mar 2010 19:23 Mark Earnest wrote: > "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message > news:jwgln.333085$Dy7.4270(a)newsfe26.ams2... >> Mark Earnest wrote: >>> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message >>> news:rXWkn.317746$Dy7.244291(a)newsfe26.ams2... >>>> Mark Earnest wrote: >>>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>>> news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>>> In article >>>>>> <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d(a)posted.internetamerica>, "Mark >>>>>> Earnest" <gmearnest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>> <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a337(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>>> BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? >>>>>> >>>>>> You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably >>>>>> nonexistent god says, but only of what it does not say. >>>>> >>>>> In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also know >>>>> what it does. >>>> >>>> Nope. There is no requirement to know what non-existent things say, >>>> other than they say nothing. >>> But you can't know what they don't say without first knowing what >>> they do say. >> >> Non-existent things say nothing at all. >> Unless you know of a non-existent thing that speaks....but that >> would make it existent. > > You're non existent, and yet you speak. Do you often commuinicate with non-existent beings? The voices in your head? Your supposed god character? Please seek help urgently. > You know you are non existent because you > have not yet become...yourself. Was that supposed to make sense? -- Smiler The godless one a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
From: Mark Earnest on 10 Mar 2010 03:33 "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message news:RDBln.268516$kS2.192916(a)newsfe17.ams2... > Mark Earnest wrote: >> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message >> news:jwgln.333085$Dy7.4270(a)newsfe26.ams2... >>> Mark Earnest wrote: >>>> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message >>>> news:rXWkn.317746$Dy7.244291(a)newsfe26.ams2... >>>>> Mark Earnest wrote: >>>>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>>>> In article >>>>>>> <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d(a)posted.internetamerica>, "Mark >>>>>>> Earnest" <gmearnest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>>> <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a337(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>>>> BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably >>>>>>> nonexistent god says, but only of what it does not say. >>>>>> >>>>>> In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also know >>>>>> what it does. >>>>> >>>>> Nope. There is no requirement to know what non-existent things say, >>>>> other than they say nothing. >>>> But you can't know what they don't say without first knowing what >>>> they do say. >>> >>> Non-existent things say nothing at all. >>> Unless you know of a non-existent thing that speaks....but that >>> would make it existent. >> >> You're non existent, and yet you speak. > > Do you often commuinicate with non-existent beings? All the time. Because that is the only type of being there is. Or, should I say, almost is. > The voices in your head? Your supposed god character? > Please seek help urgently. I get my help from all over the world Do you? > >> You know you are non existent because you >> have not yet become...yourself. > > Was that supposed to make sense? Before you can become what you were meant to be...how could you possibly be? You can't tell, because you don't exist.
From: Smiler on 10 Mar 2010 20:26
Mark Earnest wrote: > "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message > news:RDBln.268516$kS2.192916(a)newsfe17.ams2... >> Mark Earnest wrote: >>> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message >>> news:jwgln.333085$Dy7.4270(a)newsfe26.ams2... >>>> Mark Earnest wrote: >>>>> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)joe.king.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:rXWkn.317746$Dy7.244291(a)newsfe26.ams2... >>>>>> Mark Earnest wrote: >>>>>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Virgil-B1269E.02044107032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>> <P7GdnQ4vnftLyg7WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d(a)posted.internetamerica>, >>>>>>>> "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Virgil" <Virgil(a)home.esc> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:Virgil-F428B4.00322907032010(a)bignews.usenetmonster.com... >>>>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>>>> <74ce591f-64e0-40aa-b09c-98bc23a0a337(a)c37g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>>>>> BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> God created Himself. There is no universe without God. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your God, even if it exists, does not say so. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And HOW do you know what something that doesn't exist says? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You misread me. I made no mention of what your probably >>>>>>>> nonexistent god says, but only of what it does not say. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In order to know what it does not say, you would have to also >>>>>>> know what it does. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. There is no requirement to know what non-existent things >>>>>> say, other than they say nothing. >>>>> But you can't know what they don't say without first knowing what >>>>> they do say. >>>> >>>> Non-existent things say nothing at all. >>>> Unless you know of a non-existent thing that speaks....but that >>>> would make it existent. >>> >>> You're non existent, and yet you speak. >> >> Do you often commuinicate with non-existent beings? > > All the time. Because that is the only type of being there is. Or, > should I say, almost is. > >> The voices in your head? Your supposed god character? >> Please seek help urgently. > > I get my help from all over the world > Do you? > >> >>> You know you are non existent because you >>> have not yet become...yourself. >> >> Was that supposed to make sense? > > Before you can become what you were meant to be...how could you > possibly be? > More nonsensical mindfarts. > You can't tell, because you don't exist. <humouring the loonie from a safe distance> OK, Mark. I don't exist. Now please go and play in the traffic. -- Smiler The godless one a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer |