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From: Bob Urz on 21 Jan 2007 21:50 Arny Krueger wrote: > "Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message > news:1169431172_935(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net > >>Arny Krueger wrote: >> >>>"Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message >>>news:1169311899_13943(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net >>> >>> >>>>Arny Krueger wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>"BOB Urz" <"sound"@(remove) inetnebr.com> wrote in >>>>>message news:1169270006_10549(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>When i can get no rings out of them on the sencore, >>>>>>you can about guarantee some turns are shorted. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>That appears to be self-contradictory. >>>>> >>>>>Are you trying to saythat even though the coils pass a >>>>>shorted-turn test, you still think they are too far >>>>>gone to be worth measuring? >>> >>> >>>>You DON'T understand Arny. >>> >>> >>>Right Bob I can't read your mind. You wrote a post in a >>>way that would only be meaningful to someone who had >>>experience with a specific piece of fairly esoteric test >>>equipment. > > >>Well , lets see. I said i got no rings, and that about >>guarantees a shorted turns. You (who obviously doesn't know about >>ringers), says it appears to be contradictory. So, you obviously thought >>you knew something about ringers to make your statement "that >>appears to be self contradictory". > > > I know that this will make your day Bob, but I've never heard of a > shorted-turn tester called a ringer. I said that the usage appeared to be > contrdictory for that reason. > > Therefore your claim that I thought I knew what a ringer was is completely > false. > > > >>If you did no know >>what a ringer or ring test on a coil was, goggle was a few key strokes >>away. > > > I just googled "ringer shorted turn" and nothing popped up that was > obviously relevant in the first few pages. > > Ditto for "ring test". > > > Humm Arny, your not as smart as i thought. Google Marco search: terms( coil ring test) Results 11 - 20 of about 1,190,000 for coil ring test. Lets limit it down, add sencore Results 1 - 10 of about 330 for coil ring sencore. (0.19 seconds) ePanorama.net :: View topic - Infinity crossover coil value or Results 1 - 10 of about 349 for coil ringer sencore. First rule of web searches is to play with the search terms until you get the desired result. Bob ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
From: Mr.T on 21 Jan 2007 22:34 "Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message news:1169434331_1227(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net... > First rule of web searches is to play with the search terms until you > get the desired result. Which assumes you know what the desired result is. Arny was gracious enough to admit he had never heard of a ring test, therefore could not be expected to know. Now that may be surprising, but hardly a hanging offence. :-) MrT.
From: Arny Krueger on 22 Jan 2007 08:14 "Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message news:1169434331_1227(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net > Arny Krueger wrote: >> "Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message >> news:1169431172_935(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net >> >>> Arny Krueger wrote: >>> >>>> "Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1169311899_13943(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net >>>> >>>> >>>>> Arny Krueger wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "BOB Urz" <"sound"@(remove) inetnebr.com> wrote in >>>>>> message news:1169270006_10549(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> When i can get no rings out of them on the sencore, >>>>>>> you can about guarantee some turns are shorted. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That appears to be self-contradictory. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you trying to saythat even though the coils pass >>>>>> a shorted-turn test, you still think they are too far >>>>>> gone to be worth measuring? >>>> >>>> >>>>> You DON'T understand Arny. >>>> >>>> >>>> Right Bob I can't read your mind. You wrote a post in a >>>> way that would only be meaningful to someone who had >>>> experience with a specific piece of fairly esoteric >>>> test equipment. >> >> >>> Well , lets see. I said i got no rings, and that about >>> guarantees a shorted turns. You (who obviously doesn't >>> know about ringers), says it appears to be >>> contradictory. So, you obviously thought you knew something about >>> ringers to make your statement "that appears to be self contradictory". >> >> >> I know that this will make your day Bob, but I've never >> heard of a shorted-turn tester called a ringer. I said >> that the usage appeared to be contrdictory for that >> reason. Therefore your claim that I thought I knew what a ringer >> was is completely false. >> >> >> >>> If you did no know >>> what a ringer or ring test on a coil was, goggle was a >>> few key strokes away. >> >> >> I just googled "ringer shorted turn" and nothing popped >> up that was obviously relevant in the first few pages. >> >> Ditto for "ring test". >> >> >> > Humm Arny, your not as smart as i thought. > > Google Marco search: > terms( coil ring test) > Results 11 - 20 of about 1,190,000 for coil ring test. Not what I said. I introduced a concept that seems foreign to you Bob - hits that are actually relevant to the topic. By citing all these irrelevant hits, you're showing that you can't determine relevance of the hits received to your own topic.
From: Arny Krueger on 22 Jan 2007 08:15 "Mr.T" <MrT(a)home> wrote in message news:45b4310b$0$9771$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au > "Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message > news:1169434331_1227(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net... >> First rule of web searches is to play with the search >> terms until you get the desired result. > > Which assumes you know what the desired result is. Arny > was gracious enough to admit he had never heard of a ring > test, therefore could not be expected to know. Now that > may be surprising, but hardly a hanging offence. :-) You've got to remember that Bob is a disciple of the inestimable Phildo and George, the bitter, often intoxicated trolls who continuously run down AAPLS.
From: Bob Urz on 22 Jan 2007 08:47
Arny Krueger wrote: > "Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message > news:1169434331_1227(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net > >>Arny Krueger wrote: >> >>>"Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message >>>news:1169431172_935(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net >>> >>> >>>>Arny Krueger wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Bob Urz" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:1169311899_13943(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Arny Krueger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>"BOB Urz" <"sound"@(remove) inetnebr.com> wrote in >>>>>>>message news:1169270006_10549(a)sp6iad.superfeed.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>When i can get no rings out of them on the sencore, >>>>>>>>you can about guarantee some turns are shorted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>That appears to be self-contradictory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Are you trying to saythat even though the coils pass >>>>>>>a shorted-turn test, you still think they are too far >>>>>>>gone to be worth measuring? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>You DON'T understand Arny. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Right Bob I can't read your mind. You wrote a post in a >>>>>way that would only be meaningful to someone who had >>>>>experience with a specific piece of fairly esoteric >>>>>test equipment. >>> >>> >>>>Well , lets see. I said i got no rings, and that about >>>>guarantees a shorted turns. You (who obviously doesn't >>>>know about ringers), says it appears to be >>>>contradictory. So, you obviously thought you knew something about >>>>ringers to make your statement "that appears to be self contradictory". >>> >>> >>>I know that this will make your day Bob, but I've never >>>heard of a shorted-turn tester called a ringer. I said >>>that the usage appeared to be contrdictory for that >>>reason. Therefore your claim that I thought I knew what a ringer >>>was is completely false. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>If you did no know >>>>what a ringer or ring test on a coil was, goggle was a >>>>few key strokes away. >>> >>> >>>I just googled "ringer shorted turn" and nothing popped >>>up that was obviously relevant in the first few pages. >>> >>>Ditto for "ring test". >>> >>> >>> >> >>Humm Arny, your not as smart as i thought. >> >>Google Marco search: >>terms( coil ring test) >>Results 11 - 20 of about 1,190,000 for coil ring test. > > > Not what I said. I introduced a concept that seems foreign to you Bob - hits > that are actually relevant to the topic. > > By citing all these irrelevant hits, you're showing that you can't determine > relevance of the hits received to your own topic. > > Ok Arny. Your a smart guy RIght? You have used google before right? And you know how to search for topics? With the words "coil ring sencore", here are the hits (in order) ePanorama.net :: View topic - Infinity crossover coil value to the tweeter. I tried to read the coil on my sencore, and it measures about .3 MH. It won't pass any ring test (air core) so i know turns are ... www.epanorama.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=45813&sid=d1cd540e78fa673ee91061889a9e3a5a - 69k - Jan 20, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages [PDF] Complete Flyback/IHVT Testing File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML secondary windings will never ring 10. The primary coil is usually the .... This can be tested with a Sencore Z-. Meter. You first need to find two separate ... www.sencore.com/custsup/pdf/TT217.pdf - Similar pages Sencore designs, builds, and markets electronic test instruments. 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