From: Mark Warner on
»Q« wrote:
> In <news:839649F6d5U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> <http://www.tedcarnahan.com/2009/11/25/fixing-broken-wifi-on-inspiron-9400-in-ubuntu-karmic/>
>> Fix posted for edge case:
>>
>> "It turns out that the iwl3945 firmware that ships with Karmic has a
>> bug that prevents the Intel wifi from connecting if the access point
>> offers WPA2 encryption with AES as a possibility for security. To fix
>> this bug, follow these steps:"
>
> That's the case Bottoms earlier said applies to him and he indicated
> his unwillingness to "jump through hoops" necessary to deal with it,
> such as reading and learning.
>
> To show how little he's learned so far, he's titled this thread
> "Inspiron versus Linux" when it should be "Bottoms versus Reason".

It also *doesn't* apply to him, as it's an edge case bug introduced to
Ub 9.10 from a deprecation made upstream in Debian testing. Earlier
*buntus didn't have it.

We both know he hasn't tried anything. Those links came from a Google
search, which he then just copy/pasted, in some kind of attempt to
show... something or other <shrug>. Most don't even apply to his
situation, and those that do are over two years old and have been
rendered moot by the progress made in the kernel and in the GUI
networking tools now available. Even at that, those same links show that
the hardware in question worked going back as far as Dapper Drake, a
June 06 release.

--
Mark Warner
MEPIS Linux
Registered Linux User #415318
...lose .inhibitions when replying

From: Dave on
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:12:01 +0000, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>> or maybe he was just fibbin' again,or funnin'with us,or when the bottle
>> of Jack Daniels ran out and he woke up,he just plumb fergot.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
> Then I tried encryption....ooops. That wasn't the only issues I ran into
> after that either. Linux is junk for tweakers.


Ran off to post things before you actually researched it huh?Yep now that
sounds like you.

Dave


--
Registered Linux user # 444770

From: Mark Warner on
Bear Bottoms wrote:
> Mark Warner wrote:
>> »Q« wrote:
>>>
>>> That's the case Bottoms earlier said applies to him and he indicated
>>> his unwillingness to "jump through hoops" necessary to deal with it,
>>> such as reading and learning.
>>>
>>> To show how little he's learned so far, he's titled this thread
>>> "Inspiron versus Linux" when it should be "Bottoms versus Reason".
>>
>> It also *doesn't* apply to him, as it's an edge case bug introduced to
>> Ub 9.10 from a deprecation made upstream in Debian testing. Earlier
>> *buntus didn't have it.
>>
>> We both know he hasn't tried anything. Those links came from a Google
>> search, which he then just copy/pasted, in some kind of attempt to
>> show... something or other <shrug>. Most don't even apply to his
>> situation, and those that do are over two years old and have been
>> rendered moot by the progress made in the kernel and in the GUI
>> networking tools now available. Even at that, those same links show
>> that the hardware in question worked going back as far as Dapper
>> Drake, a June 06 release.
>
> What else can you say when you are put in your place?

What color is the sky in your world?

--
Mark Warner
MEPIS Linux
Registered Linux User #415318
...lose .inhibitions when replying

From: »Q« on
In <news:Xns9D62AE959BAbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.250>,
Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:

> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in
> news:20100422160934.74ca344a(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net:
>
> > In <news:Xns9D62A2BA1132Dbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247>,
> > Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:
> >
> >> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in
> >> news:20100422144755.146eecb4(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net:
> >
> >> > In <news:Xns9D61CBC406960bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.250>,
> >> > Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote:
> >
> > [quote from web]
> >> >>> It turns out that the iwl3945 firmware that ships with Karmic
> >> >>> has a bug that prevents the Intel wifi from connecting if the
> >> >>> access point offers WPA2 encryption with AES as a possibility
> >> >>> for security. To fix this bug, follow these steps:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 1. Download the latest iwl3945 firmware from the Intel Linux
> >> >>> Wireless site =
> >> >>> http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads 2. Make a copy of
> >> >>> the /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode file that contains the
> >> >>> old firmware. 3. Copy the new iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode
> >> >>> to /lib/firmware 4. Reboot.
> >> >>
> >> >> So it turns out that I was correct about the issue with
> >> >> wireless on my laptop, and while it may be remedied...
> >> >
> >> > Earlier, you pointed to that same set of instructions and claimed
> >> > that they don't work. Now you recognize that they *do* work.
> >> > You're making progress.
> >>
> >> No, they do not work.
> >
> > Then you were incorrect about the alleged problem with wireless on
> > your laptop, and you've just lied about it again. And you snipped
> > the context in order to hide your lying, so I've replaced it.
> >
> > You've spent *far* more time lying about the issue you claim to have
> > than trying to solve it.
>
> Not at all.

Sure you have, and you continue to.

> I still have not got wireless to work on my laptop.

Don't forget, you just said it's not something you're trying to do. I
doubt you could even if you were trying to, but since you're not trying
to, why post about it so many dozens of times?

> You are just confused and can't handle it---and way too eager to
> troll.

I can't predict which lie you're going to contradict yourself with
next, but that's not the same thing as confusion.

FWIW, my 3945 never gave me trouble until I poured about 20 oz of water
through my laptop. At that point, it wouldn't boot, so I don't know
if wireless would have been ok. Once it dried out thoroughly, which
took over a month, it worked fine again, but by that time I'd bought a
laptop with a newer wifi chipset. My current 4965 chipset uses the
same iwlwifi driver as the 3945 and gives me no trouble either. Among
the things they handle (both chipsets) is WPA2 encryption.

At this point you usually ask (again and again) why it doesn't work for
you, as if asking that question proves something other than "Bottoms
claims he can't use wifi". If you really do have an issue with it you
can't resolve, it's probably because you lie so much in every thread you
start about the alleged issue.
From: »Q« on
In <news:83bv4aFn0U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> »Q« wrote:
> > In <news:839649F6d5U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> <http://www.tedcarnahan.com/2009/11/25/fixing-broken-wifi-on-inspiron-9400-in-ubuntu-karmic/>
> >> Fix posted for edge case:
> >>
> >> "It turns out that the iwl3945 firmware that ships with Karmic has
> >> a bug that prevents the Intel wifi from connecting if the access
> >> point offers WPA2 encryption with AES as a possibility for
> >> security. To fix this bug, follow these steps:"
> >
> > That's the case Bottoms earlier said applies to him and he indicated
> > his unwillingness to "jump through hoops" necessary to deal with it,
> > such as reading and learning.
> >
> > To show how little he's learned so far, he's titled this thread
> > "Inspiron versus Linux" when it should be "Bottoms versus Reason".
>
> It also *doesn't* apply to him, as it's an edge case bug introduced
> to Ub 9.10 from a deprecation made upstream in Debian testing.
> Earlier *buntus didn't have it.
>
> We both know he hasn't tried anything. Those links came from a Google
> search, which he then just copy/pasted, in some kind of attempt to
> show... something or other <shrug>. Most don't even apply to his
> situation, and those that do are over two years old and have been
> rendered moot by the progress made in the kernel and in the GUI
> networking tools now available. Even at that, those same links show
> that the hardware in question worked going back as far as Dapper
> Drake, a June 06 release.

That's all true. If he's not a malicious, lying idiot, he's doing an
awfully good job of pretending to be one.

When he was reminded of his claim that he *did* make his 3945 work, he
immediately claimed that encryption didn't work back then; but he made
that claim that his 3945 worked months *before* Ubuntu shipped the
driver with that edge-case bug.

A monkey with a whiteboard could keep better track of his lies to avoid
the kind of contradiction.
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