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From: Shadow on 22 Apr 2010 11:49 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:00:39 GMT, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote: >> All you have to do is download the firmware for the nic and >> install wicd(<1Mb). >> I had to download > 20Mb windows drivers for my ralink . No >> sweat. >> You are nit-picking >> []'s >> > >The solution is always easy once you find it. I wouldn't call that "out >of the box." I wouldn't even call it intuitive in any way. I would call >it very frustrating until it becomes easy. > >You sound like Mark now. Very condescending. You guys were wrong. Own up >to it. I never said linux works "right out of the box". I still have not got good drivers for my laptop (only have 2D) and its modem. And nvidia (fixed now) was a PITA to set up in ubuntu 10.04. But windows has also NEVER worked "out of the box" either. I needed to download drivers to get my wifi working. []'s
From: »Q« on 22 Apr 2010 15:42 In <news:839649F6d5U1(a)mid.individual.net>, Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > <http://www.tedcarnahan.com/2009/11/25/fixing-broken-wifi-on-inspiron-9400-in-ubuntu-karmic/> > > Fix posted for edge case: > > "It turns out that the iwl3945 firmware that ships with Karmic has a > bug that prevents the Intel wifi from connecting if the access point > offers WPA2 encryption with AES as a possibility for security. To fix > this bug, follow these steps:" That's the case Bottoms earlier said applies to him and he indicated his unwillingness to "jump through hoops" necessary to deal with it, such as reading and learning. To show how little he's learned so far, he's titled this thread "Inspiron versus Linux" when it should be "Bottoms versus Reason".
From: »Q« on 22 Apr 2010 15:54 In <news:Xns9D6228D73B224bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247>, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote: > The solution is always easy once you find it. It's also very easy to find. Despite your own lack of research skill, you found it yourself quite easily. > I wouldn't call that "out of the box." Nobody asked you to call it "out of the box"; that's a red herring you introduced. > I wouldn't even call it intuitive in any way. A piece of bad firmware shipped with the distro you've chosen, so you need to replace it with the good firmware. If by "intuitive" you mean you expected to solve it by staring at your fingernails, you're right about it being non-intuitive. > I would call it very frustrating until it becomes easy. Unless you skip the step in which you start looking for a solution, it becomes easy immediately.
From: »Q« on 22 Apr 2010 15:47 In <news:Xns9D61CBC406960bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.250>, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote: > Shadow <sh(a)dow.org> wrote in news:hqo1l7$qcb$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > > > On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:30:40 +0000, Bear Bottoms wrote: > > > >> Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibitions(a)gmail.com> wrote in > >> news:839649F6d5U1 @mid.individual.net: > >> > >>> So wireless actually *does* work, you just haven't been able to > >>> get the encryption congfigured. > >> > >> No it doesn't work. If I can't configure encryption, it is useless > >> to me. I've been very close a couple of times, and followed various > >> tips. I never got there. That doesn't mean I won't try again in the > >> future, but why should it be so frustrating just to get wifi to > >> work? > > From you own links: > > /////// > > Fixing Broken WiFi on Inspiron 9400 in Ubuntu Karmic > > 25 November 2009 > > > > I just got done with a fresh install of Ubuntu Karmic on my big > > laptop – the 17″ Dell Inspiron 9400. Almost everything installed > > flawlessly – I continue to be amazed at how much faster and easier > > it is to install Ubuntu than other operating systems and even Linux > > distributions. The one problem was with wireless. > > > > It turns out that the iwl3945 firmware that ships with Karmic has a > > bug that prevents the Intel wifi from connecting if the access point > > offers WPA2 encryption with AES as a possibility for security. To > > fix this bug, follow these steps: > > > > 1. Download the latest iwl3945 firmware from the Intel Linux > > Wireless > > site = http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads > > 2. Make a copy of the /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode file > > that contains the old firmware. > > 3. Copy the new iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode to /lib/firmware > > 4. Reboot. > > /////// > > But you should tell us what dist/version you are using, what > > kernel (command is uname -r), also the other stuff I asked for. > > []'s > > If it's a firmware problem give us a printout of: > > > > dmesg |grep firm > > > > Mine gives me: > > [ 31.176144] rt61pci 0000:00:0c.0: firmware: requesting > > rt2561s.bin (it found my firmware - for a ralink adapter) > > So it turns out that I was correct about the issue with wireless on > my laptop, and while it may be remedied... Earlier, you pointed to that same set of instructions and claimed that they don't work. Now you recognize that they *do* work. You're making progress. > it ain't an "out of the box" remedy. Ah, you were expecting to fix your problem without doing anything at all? Is that the way you fix the Windows problems you encounter? If downloading a single file when you've been spoon-fed a link to it is too much for you to manage, you should give up on running any OS, even ones you think might be "ready for prime time". > So I expect naysayers to acknowledge their errors...or not. I haven't noticed any errors in any of the posts pointing out that you have been lying about this issue in multiple threads.
From: »Q« on 22 Apr 2010 17:09
In <news:Xns9D62A2BA1132Dbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.247>, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote: > =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in > news:20100422144755.146eecb4(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net: > > In <news:Xns9D61CBC406960bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)69.16.185.250>, > > Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote: [quote from web] > >>> It turns out that the iwl3945 firmware that ships with Karmic has > >>> a bug that prevents the Intel wifi from connecting if the access > >>> point offers WPA2 encryption with AES as a possibility for > >>> security. To fix this bug, follow these steps: > >>> > >>> 1. Download the latest iwl3945 firmware from the Intel Linux > >>> Wireless site = http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads > >>> 2. Make a copy of the /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode file > >>> that contains the old firmware. > >>> 3. Copy the new iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode to /lib/firmware > >>> 4. Reboot. > >> > >> So it turns out that I was correct about the issue with wireless on > >> my laptop, and while it may be remedied... > > > > Earlier, you pointed to that same set of instructions and claimed > > that they don't work. Now you recognize that they *do* work. > > You're making progress. > > No, they do not work. Then you were incorrect about the alleged problem with wireless on your laptop, and you've just lied about it again. And you snipped the context in order to hide your lying, so I've replaced it. You've spent *far* more time lying about the issue you claim to have than trying to solve it. |