From: John Larkin on 27 Oct 2009 21:12 On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:45:49 -0700 (PDT), Tim Williams <tmoranwms(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Oct 27, 9:58�am, "amdx" <a...(a)knology.net> wrote: >> � �Any possibility of an online whiteboard, You guys can all draw pieces and >> parts and add corrections as needed. > >No, it doesn't work. A static electronic screen and mouse (or worse, >touchpad) doesn't have the same eye-brain-arm connection that a >whiteboard does. There is something about drawing in person that is >orders of magnitude more plastic than anything on a computer. I can't >think while manipulating pixels, but I can think while writing. At the first-concept level, computer CAD really slows me down, especially if I'm considering using parts that aren't in the library. And brainstorming with multiple people works very well on a whiteboard And with a whiteboard, you can physically block people who are trying to muck with your beautiful creation. > >When I wanted to do a complete layout of this circuit, I did it on a >full sheet of newsprint. Old crummy stuff, it ain't vellum, but it >was on hand. Then I put it on the computer (in A4 size sections). > >http://myweb.msoe.edu/williamstm/Images/EV_Paper_Draft.jpg > Yup, I do my schematics with pencil on D-size vellum, and give them to The Brat to cad for me. John
From: Joerg on 27 Oct 2009 21:20 John Larkin wrote: [...] > Yup, I do my schematics with pencil on D-size vellum, and give them to > The Brat to cad for me. > But don't overdo it. She may some day be the one deciding which nursing home your are going to live at ... -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Jim Thompson on 27 Oct 2009 21:24 On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:20:41 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: > >[...] > >> Yup, I do my schematics with pencil on D-size vellum, and give them to >> The Brat to cad for me. >> > >But don't overdo it. She may some day be the one deciding which nursing >home your are going to live at ... She'll give John the Norwegian burning boat treatment ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | With Half My Brain Tied Behind My Back Still More Clever Than Mr.Prissy Pants
From: Jim Thompson on 27 Oct 2009 21:25 On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:12:09 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:45:49 -0700 (PDT), Tim Williams ><tmoranwms(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Oct 27, 9:58�am, "amdx" <a...(a)knology.net> wrote: >>> � �Any possibility of an online whiteboard, You guys can all draw pieces and >>> parts and add corrections as needed. >> >>No, it doesn't work. A static electronic screen and mouse (or worse, >>touchpad) doesn't have the same eye-brain-arm connection that a >>whiteboard does. There is something about drawing in person that is >>orders of magnitude more plastic than anything on a computer. I can't >>think while manipulating pixels, but I can think while writing. > >At the first-concept level, computer CAD really slows me down, >especially if I'm considering using parts that aren't in the library. >And brainstorming with multiple people works very well on a whiteboard > >And with a whiteboard, you can physically block people who are trying >to muck with your beautiful creation. > >> >>When I wanted to do a complete layout of this circuit, I did it on a >>full sheet of newsprint. Old crummy stuff, it ain't vellum, but it >>was on hand. Then I put it on the computer (in A4 size sections). >> >>http://myweb.msoe.edu/williamstm/Images/EV_Paper_Draft.jpg >> > >Yup, I do my schematics with pencil on D-size vellum, and give them to >The Brat to cad for me. > >John > > ALL my parts are already in my library. If not, if I feel _custom_ coming on, I just spin my own ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | With Half My Brain Tied Behind My Back Still More Clever Than Mr.Prissy Pants
From: John Larkin on 27 Oct 2009 22:42
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:20:41 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: > >[...] > >> Yup, I do my schematics with pencil on D-size vellum, and give them to >> The Brat to cad for me. >> > >But don't overdo it. She may some day be the one deciding which nursing >home your are going to live at ... Heck, all of engineering, including me, are working for her already. R wants her to do FPGA design next. So I'm scheduled to do a couple of lectures on basic digital design concepts, and then he'll do a couple on FPGAs and VHDL in particular. John |