From: hummingbird on
On 3 Mar 2007 12:24:11 -0800 'stoyan'
posted this onto alt.comp.freeware:

>> "Red Fox" <RedFox(a)NoDen.Con> wrote in message
>> news:rWaGh.6281$re4.2167(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
>> >I have seen quite a few downoad web sites for free TV progs, claiming that
>> > there are hundreds of stations available from around the world e.g.
>> >
>> > http://www.download3k.com/Internet/Browsers/Download-TV.html
>> >
>> > I am a bit reluctant to download these without some indication that they
>> > are
>> > safe to use.
>> >
>> > Anyone have experience of these and can make a recommendation for a very
>> > good product?
>>
>> Your computer probably already has everything you need to watch these
>> programs, i.e. Media Player, Flash. Typically, these TV programs are nothing
>> more than an interface for Media Player and a database of websites.
>>
>> Lots of times the programs aren't "live". That is the content isn't being
>> broadcast in real-time -- it's old stuff that simply gets streamed to your
>> computer on demand.
>>
>> Personally, I never found much interesting content unless you are into much
>> older movies (30 - 40 years old) or news. If your goal is entertainment
>> there are sights like PeekVid that will stream current movies or TV shows to
>> your computer in Flash format. They don't host the files, they just point to
>> them on sites like YouTube, etc. Sometimes the links are broken as the
>> copyrighted content is removed from the original source.

>www.television.bg
>
>Watch online TV and listen radio programes

This is an interesting site but it says the stations are only intended
for evaluation purposes and they are not live TV channels afaics.
EG: several news channels I tried only showed a latest news clip.
Some of the clips only last 1-2 minutes and then started again.
From: B. Otsing on
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 21:03:05 +0100, M <nowhereman(a)twilightzone.net> wrote:

> Personally, I never found much interesting content unless you are into
> much
> older movies (30 - 40 years old) or news.

programs using peer-to-peer streaming offer some interesting content.
See http://arjenvankol.com/p2p-tv.php
From: Red Fox on

"M" <nowhereman(a)twilightzone.net> wrote in message
news:ZvkGh.1201050$1T2.623857(a)pd7urf2no...
> "Red Fox" <RedFox(a)NoDen.Con> wrote in message
> news:rWaGh.6281$re4.2167(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> >I have seen quite a few downoad web sites for free TV progs, claiming
that
> > there are hundreds of stations available from around the world e.g.
> >
> > http://www.download3k.com/Internet/Browsers/Download-TV.html
> >
> > I am a bit reluctant to download these without some indication that they
> > are
> > safe to use.
> >
> > Anyone have experience of these and can make a recommendation for a very
> > good product?
>
> Your computer probably already has everything you need to watch these
> programs, i.e. Media Player, Flash. Typically, these TV programs are
nothing
> more than an interface for Media Player and a database of websites.
>
> Lots of times the programs aren't "live". That is the content isn't being
> broadcast in real-time -- it's old stuff that simply gets streamed to your
> computer on demand.
>
> Personally, I never found much interesting content unless you are into
much
> older movies (30 - 40 years old) or news. If your goal is entertainment
> there are sights like PeekVid that will stream current movies or TV shows
to
> your computer in Flash format. They don't host the files, they just point
to
> them on sites like YouTube, etc. Sometimes the links are broken as the
> copyrighted content is removed from the original source.
>
> M
>

Thank you M for your reply.

As it happens, I do like old movies and I do have Media Player and the
latest Flashon my OS -
Win2K SP4. What prog would I use, and where would I go to find these old
movies, and the news programs - world wide, hopefully. Is the BBC included?

Is there any good reference to the latest and greatest in this field?

I have ATT/Yahoo DSL and they recently sent me a flier about an online TV
offering with up to 30 channels. The charge was $20/month but I wouldn't pay
1c/month for what they have.
The list is at att.mobitv.com/90

TIA

RF


From: Red Fox on
Phew! Stoyan, that has some interesting stuff!!

I'm still recovering. :-)

Thanks for the introduction

RF
"stoyan" <ystoyan(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172953451.543973.227080(a)31g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
www.television.bg

Watch online TV and listen radio programes


M ������:
> "Red Fox" <RedFox(a)NoDen.Con> wrote in message
> news:rWaGh.6281$re4.2167(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> >I have seen quite a few downoad web sites for free TV progs, claiming
that
> > there are hundreds of stations available from around the world e.g.
> >
> > http://www.download3k.com/Internet/Browsers/Download-TV.html
> >
> > I am a bit reluctant to download these without some indication that they
> > are
> > safe to use.
> >
> > Anyone have experience of these and can make a recommendation for a very
> > good product?
>
> Your computer probably already has everything you need to watch these
> programs, i.e. Media Player, Flash. Typically, these TV programs are
nothing
> more than an interface for Media Player and a database of websites.
>
> Lots of times the programs aren't "live". That is the content isn't being
> broadcast in real-time -- it's old stuff that simply gets streamed to your
> computer on demand.
>
> Personally, I never found much interesting content unless you are into
much
> older movies (30 - 40 years old) or news. If your goal is entertainment
> there are sights like PeekVid that will stream current movies or TV shows
to
> your computer in Flash format. They don't host the files, they just point
to
> them on sites like YouTube, etc. Sometimes the links are broken as the
> copyrighted content is removed from the original source.
>
> M


From: M on
"Red Fox" <RedFox(a)NoDen.Con> wrote in message
news:0ZnGh.6372$re4.1437(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> As it happens, I do like old movies and I do have Media Player and the
> latest Flashon my OS -
> Win2K SP4. What prog would I use, and where would I go to find these old
> movies, and the news programs - world wide, hopefully. Is the BBC
> included?

I guess it's a question of semantics. If you Google for Internet TV you'll
find lots of sites. Go to these sites and you'll see links to "internet tv
stations" but when you click them, you essentially get streamed content from
a source like BBC, etc. Typically, WMP -- less often Real Player -- will
open up to play the stream. Some specialize in things like older action
movies, older comedies, etc.

I don't consider this TV. This is just streamed content to my mind, no
different from YouTube or Google Video.

My definition of TV is first-time broadcast content which -- when I think of
it now is screwy since it completely ignores the whole point of the
Internet. I notice that some of the American networks now "broadcast"
original episodes after they have first aired on "traditional" cable /
broadcast TV. IIRC some require you to install special programs to use
these.

In researching this, I found some sites that required you to download a
program to watch "their" stations. But when I did this, I discovered that
the content was no different that what other sites streamed except that
these other sites simply used the Windows Media Player. Perhaps the
proprietary viewers required by the first type of site install adware /
spyware or otherwise somehow "push" advertising on you or monitor you online
activity. I don't know and I just didn't care enough to research it further.
I simply un-installed their viewer and stuck to sites that used Media
Player.

Some links/ articles that may interest you:

http://lifehacker.com/software/tv/download-of-the-day-tvuplayer-windows-208753.php
http://lifehacker.com/software/bittorrent/hack-attack-get-your-tv-season-pass-with-democracy-204057.php
http://lifehacker.com/software/television/technophilia-forget-the-tv-and-watch-the-web-199335.php

M


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