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From: Tim Williams on 3 Jul 2010 16:03 "Tom Gootee" <tomg(a)fullnet.com> wrote in message news:5e12837d-d358-46ce-9b9f-438cf3d33485(a)i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > Let's say you had a really high voltage, low current source. Not very > > useful. Think nuclear battery, or lightning. > > How would you charge caps, without enough current? By having current. See above. Tim -- Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk. Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms
From: Tim Williams on 3 Jul 2010 16:06 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:19hu26ttr286ivdoqtjnihd6q1biibudj8(a)4ax.com... > That's just a charge pump working in the down direction. The switches > are the problem. Yup. So we need to make a flying capacitor switcher with >10kV isolation. I don't think your favorite 400V optoisolators are up to the task :) Tim -- Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk. Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms
From: John Larkin on 3 Jul 2010 16:44 On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 15:06:41 -0500, "Tim Williams" <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote: >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:19hu26ttr286ivdoqtjnihd6q1biibudj8(a)4ax.com... >> That's just a charge pump working in the down direction. The switches >> are the problem. > >Yup. So we need to make a flying capacitor switcher with >10kV isolation. > >I don't think your favorite 400V optoisolators are up to the task :) > >Tim Not to change the subject (who, me?) you could buy a bunch of 15KV oil caps, charge them up one at a time, and physically stack them in series. Maybe start with the series string lying on the ground and use a pully and some plastic rope to lift the stack up in the air as each one is charged, literally "erecting" a Marx generator. 30 would get you to about half a million volts. Without switches or spark gaps, discharge impedance would be low. Use two ropes, at the HV and and midpoint. After it's assembled, hold up the midpoint and let the hot end droop down towards ground in an inverted "V" shape. Or do it horizontally, with the caps in an almost-closed ring, on PVC pipe supports or hanging on plastic ropes from some trees or something. Now just walk around the circle and charge one cap at a time. Carefully. Or stack the caps and have each one have its own battery-powered flyback charger. Great fun on the 4th of July. John
From: whit3rd on 3 Jul 2010 17:20 On Jul 2, 11:15 pm, "Tim Williams" <tmoran...(a)charter.net> wrote: > Let's say you had a really high voltage, low current source. Not very useful. Think nuclear battery, or lightning. It's an exercise in finding utility, then. How about exciting the plate of a vacuum tube? Then, you can feed a 'suitable' frequency into the grid and get whopping AC power output from a transformer on the cathode circuit.
From: Graeme Zimmer on 4 Jul 2010 00:18
A reverse Van Der Graph Generator ? A constantly rotating Variable Capacitor with comutator contacts to apply the high voltage at Min Cap and then bleed off the converted charge at Max capacitance? Q=CV Perhaps a cascade of them in series? ................ Zim |