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From: Karl E. Peterson on 5 May 2010 21:43 dpb wrote: > Karl E. Peterson wrote: >> Henning wrote: >>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev ... >>>> David Kaye wrote: >>>>> "Larry Serflaten" <serflaten(a)usinternet.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We would still need someone to provide 'free' access. I doubt my >>>>>> provider offers NNTP, and from the sound of things, many other >>>>>> major players are letting go also.... >>>>> >>>>> Eternal September provides free access. There are others as well. >>>> >>>> I just created an account with them, and all appeared to be going well. >>>> Until I tried logging in. The credentials are being rejected. Do you >>>> know if they're having problems at the moment? >>> >>> Same thing happened to me... I can login to my personal page, but not to >>> the newsserver. :(( >> >> Yeah, I even logged in (on the web) and "changed" my password. No go over >> nntp. > > I've had no trouble at any time all day today. > > What are you using as a client? I've been using Thunderbird and it was > totally painless as far as I can recall when initially signed up. It's been > long enough ago now I don't recall anything peculiar having to had to do... I'm using MesNews these days. But I couldn't even log in with telnet... C:\>telnet news.eternal-september.org 119 200 news.eternal-september.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.0 (20100424 snapshot) ready (posting ok) authinfo user karlpeterson 381 Enter password authinfo pass ********* 481 Invalid credentials quit 205 Bye! Connection to host lost. C:\> -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 5 May 2010 21:44 -mhd wrote: > Karl E. Peterson <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote: > >> -mhd wrote: >>> It has been pointed out to me that MS also dropped NNTP support in Win7 >>> (Outlook Express). -mhd > >> They did, yes. Which prompted me to discover a far superior tool - >> what OE always should've been! Try MesNews, if you feel so inclined. >> :-) > > Well I would never use Outlook Express either (I use Agent), but the point is > maybe MS knew a long time ago the writing was on the wall for their > commitment to nntp based groups and this has been in the works for a quite a > while. It has. They've been trying to figure it out for over a decade now. They still don't really understand usenet at all. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: dpb on 5 May 2010 22:15 Karl E. Peterson wrote: > dpb wrote: >> Karl E. Peterson wrote: >>> Henning wrote: >>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev ... >>>>> David Kaye wrote: >>>>>> "Larry Serflaten" <serflaten(a)usinternet.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We would still need someone to provide 'free' access. I doubt my >>>>>>> provider offers NNTP, and from the sound of things, many other >>>>>>> major players are letting go also.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Eternal September provides free access. There are others as well. >>>>> >>>>> I just created an account with them, and all appeared to be going >>>>> well. Until I tried logging in. The credentials are being >>>>> rejected. Do you know if they're having problems at the moment? >>>> >>>> Same thing happened to me... I can login to my personal page, but >>>> not to the newsserver. :(( >>> >>> Yeah, I even logged in (on the web) and "changed" my password. No go >>> over nntp. >> >> I've had no trouble at any time all day today. >> >> What are you using as a client? I've been using Thunderbird and it >> was totally painless as far as I can recall when initially signed up. >> It's been long enough ago now I don't recall anything peculiar having >> to had to do... > > I'm using MesNews these days. But I couldn't even log in with telnet... > > C:\>telnet news.eternal-september.org 119 > .... Hmmm...did you check the FAQ page for any specific client hints? Altho that telnet result is peculiar indeed. I believe support(a)eternal-september.org is a working address that will get a response if no joy otherwise. Let's see....looking at the host info in Thunderbird I see it's using the encrypted portal Port 563. Might give that a go just for grins... It's so seamless afaict I don't recall anything peculiar at all, other than there is a box to check in T-bird for "send authentication" w/o which it doesn't automagically. That isn't telnet's problem, of course. --
From: dpb on 5 May 2010 22:17 Karl E. Peterson wrote: .... > They still don't really understand usenet at all. Which raises the question...what _DO_ they understand??? :) --
From: Mayayana on 5 May 2010 22:37
What about news.aioe.org that was mentioned earlier? That seems to be a no-nonsense service that doesn't require signing up. According to their main page one can just point a newsreader at their server. I currently have newsgroup service with my ISP, but it might be nice to get set up with a very basic service and not have to think about it. If they're providing free service then I don't see why I should need to open an account of any kind with them. |