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From: Rowland McDonnell on 19 Apr 2010 23:36 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > it's still madness > > > to try Usenet (or mail) on line. > > > > That's nonsense. On-line newsreaders and on-line email date back to the > > dial-up days and lots of people liked working that way. > > It may be nonsense to you, but I thought that online, dialup News or > mail, especially if you were paying for the connection time, was > ludicrous- particularly once decent offline programmes became available. Peter, the point you've missed is that regardless of the fact that both you and I much prefer to do news and email off-line, there are many people who liked working with on-line news and on-line email back in the dial-up days. I can recall - back in the dial-up days - plenty of Septics who *SNEERED* at those of us who used off-line newsreaders, don't ask me why., but they claimed that *their* way was better! Do you see? You see, Peter, this isn't about your personal preference or my personal preference. It's about general behaviour - and, generally, back in the dial-up days, there were plenty of people doing news and email on-line. And because of that fact - regarless of the fact that you and I prefer to do these things off-line - your claim is false that it's madness to try Usenet or email on-line in the dial-up days. That's all - nothing to do with your preference or my preference at all. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 19 Apr 2010 23:36 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > > > > I saw your `almost' and dismissed it as nonsense. > > > > That would be your mistake then. > > All you need to do is to look at this morning's list of posts and sample > some of the insults and verbal violence. Rowland's off again. Let's > spare him and, most of all spare us. Outrageous insults, again. Peter, don't you think that you should give up on your insults against me? I get insulted here, subjected to all manner of outrageous insults and abusem, and if I should dare respond in kind a wee bit, just occasionally, and what do I get? Vile abuse and insults, such as this snide remark from Peter C. Just shut up about me personally, the lot of you. You, Peter, are more guilty than I am when it comes to making insulting and disruptive posts in this newsgroup. All you hypocritical liars, all the same... Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 21 Apr 2010 02:36 Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > it's still madness > > > > > to try Usenet (or mail) on line. > > > > > > > > That's nonsense. On-line newsreaders and on-line email date back to the > > > > dial-up days and lots of people liked working that way. > > > > > > It may be nonsense to you, but I thought that online, dialup News or > > > mail, especially if you were paying for the connection time, was > > > ludicrous- particularly once decent offline programmes became available. [snip] > And because of that fact - regarless of the fact that you and I prefer > > to do these things off-line - your claim is false that it's madness to > > try Usenet or email on-line in the dial-up days. > > It was not madness. It was a pain browsing the web if there were big > pages, Which is why one could turn off graphics, Flash wasn't around, and if you complained that a Web page took *ages* to download, the maintainer would probably do something about it (if they'd had others and cared, that is). A lot of the time these days with my 8 meg broadband, I find some Websites no quicker than they were in the dial-up days. Then again, I ended up using ISDN dial-up... > it was a pain downloading big files, No it wasn't in general, because the job would be done by a multi-tasked process leaving the rest of the comoputer for `whatever'. No extra human time is/was needed for such downlaads in general - just click and wait, just like today. <shrug> Set off yer download, then do yer email and news... I did that kind of thing using my Performa 475 - worked fine. [snip] Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Roger Merriman on 22 Apr 2010 02:42 Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote: > > > Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > > > Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Everything I read about Twitter makes it sound like a magnificent > > > > > > contribution to civilisation's achievements. > > > > > > > > > > Oh yes. Deffo. > > > > > > > > > > But sometimes I do wonder what happens on there. Not enough to try it, > > > > > mind you. But then Facebook makes me feel queasy too. > > > > > > > > chose your friends wisely, facebook is quite horrid. luckly only a few > > > > friends are exlusivly on that. > > > > > > Has someone been having a go at you on fbook? I find v little > > > horridness, because the person or their comment(s) would just be deleted > > > immediately. Irritations, yes. > > > > no far from it, but I do find it hard work, twitter is more like irc and > > is much simpler I don't get 5 million do i want to be some ones > > mobsters/vampiere such crud upon logging in. > > I don't get that either - I don't join those games, and have pretty well > all the games etc hidden from my newsfeed. I just don't want to have jump though the hoops to do that or the load of old crud messages etc. > > > in blunt I don't like facebook/myspace etc way of working twitter is > > simple and clean so thats fine though even then I don't do follow > > fridays etc as it not my thing. ie I activly don't want 5 million > > "friends" I just want to chat to my friends. and facebook makes it > > harder to do so. > > I guess we all have different ways - I find it really easy to keep in > touch with people on facebook, but then I don't add thousands of people I've removed a load off, recently but since my sister and one or two friends use it for photos etc. roger -- www.rogermerriman.com
From: Bella Jones on 22 Apr 2010 03:00
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > I find v little > > horridness, because the person or their comment(s) would just be deleted > > immediately. Irritations, yes. > > Horridness isn't what I see in Facebook. I only got started on it > because some friends were easiest to contact that way- but very few of > them, maybe two or three, and I cared about them. Normally I'd use > email, and that's still very much what I prefer- in fact I guess it'll > stay that way. > > But it's not those real friends there that bother me, obviously not. > It's the surroundings. The neediness. The rain of friend requests... I > mean, how many meaningful relationships can you have? [...] But I think most people know they're not 'friends' in the real sense. And don't forget people use Fbook as a marketing tool. I am seriously considering making a private account for real friends only, to carry on having good chats online, and leaving the other one open for (nearly) everyone, readers and interested parties etc. -- bellajonez at yahoo dot co dot uk |