From: Woody on
Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote:

> Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Everything I read about Twitter makes it sound like a magnificent
> > > > > contribution to civilisation's achievements.
> > > >
> > > > Oh yes. Deffo.
> > > >
> > > > But sometimes I do wonder what happens on there. Not enough to try it,
> > > > mind you. But then Facebook makes me feel queasy too.
> > >
> > > chose your friends wisely, facebook is quite horrid. luckly only a few
> > > friends are exlusivly on that.
> >
> > Has someone been having a go at you on fbook? I find v little
> > horridness, because the person or their comment(s) would just be deleted
> > immediately. Irritations, yes.
>
> no far from it, but I do find it hard work, twitter is more like irc and
> is much simpler I don't get 5 million do i want to be some ones
> mobsters/vampiere such crud upon logging in.

I don't get that either - I don't join those games, and have pretty well
all the games etc hidden from my newsfeed.

> in blunt I don't like facebook/myspace etc way of working twitter is
> simple and clean so thats fine though even then I don't do follow
> fridays etc as it not my thing. ie I activly don't want 5 million
> "friends" I just want to chat to my friends. and facebook makes it
> harder to do so.

I guess we all have different ways - I find it really easy to keep in
touch with people on facebook, but then I don't add thousands of people


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From: Ben Shimmin on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk>:
> Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote:

[...]

>> no far from it, but I do find it hard work, twitter is more like irc and
>> is much simpler I don't get 5 million do i want to be some ones
>> mobsters/vampiere such crud upon logging in.
>
> I don't get that either - I don't join those games, and have pretty well
> all the games etc hidden from my newsfeed.
>
>> in blunt I don't like facebook/myspace etc way of working twitter is
>> simple and clean so thats fine though even then I don't do follow
>> fridays etc as it not my thing. ie I activly don't want 5 million
>> "friends" I just want to chat to my friends. and facebook makes it
>> harder to do so.
>
> I guess we all have different ways - I find it really easy to keep in
> touch with people on facebook, but then I don't add thousands of people

When Facebook was just your profile, a wall to write stuff on, a private
message facility, photos, and events, it worked quite well. Most of that
functionality was actually useful to many people.

It seems to me that *everything* they have added since then has made
it worse: pages, groups (which should be a good idea, but in practice
there are just millions of them, and they are all inane), live chat
(which is pretty flaky, and clearly most people do not want to
speak in real time to all the hundreds of people they have added as
friends on Facebook purely out of politeness and have no real desire
ever to speak to), and -- saving the worst until last -- the apps,
which are uniformly terrible and extremely irritating, and yet
astonishingly popular amongst certain types of people: allegedly
30 million people play FarmVille *every day*, which is pretty alarming,
to be honest, especially given that it makes Sim City 2000 look state
of the art.

Facebook also seems to feel the need to change its user interface every
six months or so, with generally very little net gain.

b.

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From: Peter Ceresole on
Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> I find v little
> horridness, because the person or their comment(s) would just be deleted
> immediately. Irritations, yes.

Horridness isn't what I see in Facebook. I only got started on it
because some friends were easiest to contact that way- but very few of
them, maybe two or three, and I cared about them. Normally I'd use
email, and that's still very much what I prefer- in fact I guess it'll
stay that way.

But it's not those real friends there that bother me, obviously not.
It's the surroundings. The neediness. The rain of friend requests... I
mean, how many meaningful relationships can you have? It doesn't matter,
of course not, but there are people out there who seem to have hundreds,
in some case thousands of friends. It devalues the whole idea of
friendship or of relationships altogether. Again, in the general scheme
of things I'm sure it does little real harm; for me it's just aesthetic.
Like why I prefer to use a Mac, although there are practical reasons for
that as well. As there are for using Facebook- but the *context* does
still make me feel nauseous.

But it's been very successful, which means it must satisfy a need. Just
not for me.
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Peter
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