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From: David Bernier on 7 Jun 2010 10:30 Jesse F. Hughes wrote: > JSH<jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> Some posters have claimed that's well-known. If so, then all is well. >> >> But if not then a fundamental equation of modular arithmetic was >> previously just inexplicably missed. >> >> That opens the door of the unknown. >> >> So say, some hostile nation finds this out, while the US and Britain >> sit on their hands because top mathematicians just, oh, don't feel >> like mentioning the result! >> >> That nation gets a lot of its mathematicians together and puts them on >> a fast-paced secret program to exploit the information. >> >> It takes them a few months but they succeed and get a bonus! >> >> Learning how to crack RSA--maybe trivial to them by then--they figure >> out ways to crack all the other systems as well. >> >> Months of effort pay off as that nation hacks into computers in the US >> and Britain and all over the world, downloads top secret information >> from all levels, including nuclear launch codes. > > This *is* a scary and very believable scenario! > > If only we hadn't put those darn launch codes on the internet. What > were we thinking? In 1986, Captain Midnight took control of an Eastern USA Home Box Office transmission for 4 1/2 minutes ... Archived at Youtube (before the attack was solved), ABC News broadcast: < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFlMHCdYXLM > . David Bernier
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 7 Jun 2010 11:15 David Bernier <david250(a)videotron.ca> writes: > Jesse F. Hughes wrote: >> JSH<jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: >> >>> Some posters have claimed that's well-known. If so, then all is well. >>> >>> But if not then a fundamental equation of modular arithmetic was >>> previously just inexplicably missed. >>> >>> That opens the door of the unknown. >>> >>> So say, some hostile nation finds this out, while the US and Britain >>> sit on their hands because top mathematicians just, oh, don't feel >>> like mentioning the result! >>> >>> That nation gets a lot of its mathematicians together and puts them on >>> a fast-paced secret program to exploit the information. >>> >>> It takes them a few months but they succeed and get a bonus! >>> >>> Learning how to crack RSA--maybe trivial to them by then--they figure >>> out ways to crack all the other systems as well. >>> >>> Months of effort pay off as that nation hacks into computers in the US >>> and Britain and all over the world, downloads top secret information >>> from all levels, including nuclear launch codes. >> >> This *is* a scary and very believable scenario! >> >> If only we hadn't put those darn launch codes on the internet. What >> were we thinking? > > In 1986, Captain Midnight took control of an Eastern USA Home Box Office > transmission for 4 1/2 minutes ... > > Archived at Youtube (before the attack was solved), ABC News broadcast: > > < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFlMHCdYXLM > . Doesn't seem internet-related though, does it? -- Quincy (age 5): Baba, play some [computer games]. Mama: Quincy, if you want [Baba] to live, don't make those suggestions. Quincy: Make those suggestions. Got it.
From: dannas on 7 Jun 2010 12:14 "JSH" <jstevh(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:4edef852-e617-4136-b31f-fcdaf1b300fd(a)g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com... On Jun 6, 2:34 pm, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 6, 2:10 pm, Mark Murray <w.h.o...(a)example.com> wrote: > > > On 06/06/2010 21:13, JSH wrote: <snip> > >> You Brits can be monstrously annoying. You deserve whatever you get. >> >> James Harris >Second reply to note--I have no prior knowledge that current stock >gyrations have ANYTHING to do with this result. it is your fault, you kept telling us for YEARS and YEARS, then you went ahead anyway and published it and now look what happened > >But I will say that history should reflect that some human beings are >turds, and "Mark Murray" is one of them. No he is not, he is very well respected in all corners of the globe => you, JSH, are just jealous of him. >If I become a historical figure, you all should understand, what I say >is what history will note first, and you can of course, defend >yourselves to the best of your abilities! What you say only modulates airwaves and disipates in a short distance. We can make you into a historical figure, but you need to deside on what pose you want to take, and where you want to be placed after statueization. http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Living-Statue > >In fact, at that time, I'll welcome you to try. Why wait? > > >James Harris
From: Mark Murray on 7 Jun 2010 12:22 On 07/06/2010 17:14, dannas wrote: >> But I will say that history should reflect that some human beings are >> turds, and "Mark Murray" is one of them. > > No he is not, > he is very well respected in all corners of the globe > => you, JSH, are just jealous of him. Why, thank you, Sir! Such kind words are unwarranted but appreciated. M -- Mark "No Nickname" Murray Notable nebbish, extreme generalist.
From: dannas on 7 Jun 2010 12:21
"JSH" <jstevh(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:b62ddc18-a5cb-4640-8bce-15c4807a1bf4(a)h37g2000pra.googlegroups.com... On Jun 6, 7:33 pm, Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeo...(a)verizon.invalid> wrote: > On 06/06/2010 09:50 PM, JSH wrote: > > > No, the NSA says it relies on some kind of elliptic logarithmic stuff > > or something. > >> > That's not important here though. >> >> Ah, but it is. It indicates that the government doesn't rely on >> factoring for communicating its secrets, like, say, the nuclear launch >> codes you mention later. To my knowledge, the military actually uses a >> separate network from the Internet, so the most secure information is >> probably not even hooked up to the World Wide Web. >Doesn't need to be. And your knowledge clearly isn't worth squat here. > >And of course nuclear launches are regulated by an entirely different >multiply redundant system designed to be impervious to penetration. > >So breaching it means there is no protection left, as supposedly, it >can't be breached. that is idiotic thinking, not rational at all. >At that point, it's game over. No hope. > >It's called barbarian through the gates. no it is not. >> > So say, some hostile nation finds this out, while the US and Britain >> > sit on their hands because top mathematicians just, oh, don't feel >> > like mentioning the result! >> > > That nation gets a lot of its mathematicians together and puts them on > > a fast-paced secret program to exploit the information. > >> Which nation are you talking about? The ability to devise a new, fast >> factoring algorithm is probably outside the domain of those who are not >> quite well-educated, which pretty much means that the search is >> effectively narrowed to old Europe, the U.S., and China. The bright kids >> elsewhere probably don't stay back home long enough. >Actually I'd say roughly a dozen nations should be quite capable, >including I notice you completely forget Middle East nations. Algebra >was invented in the Middle East. it was started there, about 2,000 years ago, but the Greeks completed it. you rely on surface knowlege too much, your brain is weak and flabby. >>But those are meaningless hypotheticals around the drama that might >>occur if the result others here have claimed isn't new, is. Fun to >>talk out like science fictions stories are fun, but not really >>relevant. >Your arrogance is Western stupidity run amuck. You believe you are >very much advanced from the rest of the world. > >Makes one wonder how much it would take to remind you that there are >other human beings on the planet quite intelligent outside the sphere >you recognize as superior. that may be true, but obviously you, JSH are not one of them. >And some of them would really like to destroy your nation, and you >with it. Those are YOUR words JSH. >But enough mindless fun. The real issue for Usenet posters is, is >this thing new? Other than that, you're worthless. projecting again? >James Harris |