JSH: Yeah fame is weird
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From: JSH on 16 Jun 2010 00:01 On Jun 15, 8:43 pm, Tim Little <t...(a)little-possums.net> wrote: > On 2010-06-14, Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeo...(a)verizon.invalid> wrote: > > > But, then again, you're probably not counting number of papers citing > > your work as a valid measure of influence. > > Of course not. According to JSH the only valid measures of > mathematical influence is by Google page rank for extremely specific > search phrases, and number of countries listed in hits for their > blogs. > > - Tim That's a false statement. In a situation where both sides are claiming the other side is irrational and refuses all evidence, I've noted that readers can check for themselves in an area not mathematical. Google search results are as easy as a person going to their browser and checking. So I can give: mymath The debate can then be seen in the context of a person's own experience. It is a curious situation. Partly I think others can learn about what's possible by it. It IS amazing and endlessly fascinating how some people can behave! And in what context! Usenet is a worldwide medium. This drama is being played out on the world stage. My posting brings the world. People in most nations can ponder this situation and wonder. You can do the mymath search in any search engine. Last time I checked the top ones, I was in the top 10 in them all. ___JSH
From: Tim Little on 16 Jun 2010 00:53 On 2010-06-14, JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Coverage in 120+ countries is actually a different kind of fame than > most imagine. Most people are focused on their own countries. So for > instance in the US a lot of British pop stars are relatively unknown, > and French pop stars even less so, though thousands still know of > them. So? A single person out of the 4+ million in New Zealand (123rd by population) with a web browser and 10 idle seconds of curiosity can score a web page hit from that country. For that matter, so can a spambot on an infected PC crawling the web looking for email addresses or other useful information. I can guarantee you that there are a great deal more than 1 in 4 million PCs infected with bots. So, what evidence do you have that your "coverage in 120+ countries" is actually due to real people? Back when I had a self-hosted game related website running, I too had hits from more than a hundred countries. This despite the fact that the game itself was virtually unknown, and (in theory) only people playing the game would have any reason whatsoever to visit my website. I suspect most of them were just bots that found links to it on more publically visible sites. - Tim
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 16 Jun 2010 08:04 Tim Little <tim(a)little-possums.net> writes: > On 2010-06-14, Jim Ferry <corklebath(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Oh this is extremely disappointing! I would love to see you in a >> reality show. I will say "reality show" a few more times (reality >> show reality show reality show) in the hopes of improving the search >> score and thus connecting with a television producer to pitch this >> idea: Unrecognized Genius. > > Your posts is Google rank #1 for "unrecognized genius" "reality show" > already! Well done, that's better rank than James' for algebraic > integers vs complex numbers. Yes, but it ranks high because it's *about* James. People all over the world care about JSH, so it's natural that Google adds weight to posts in his threads that discuss JSH in entertainment ventures. As usual, Jim is just riding on JSH's coattails. Come on, people, it's all so obvious! -- "We want a single platform. We're trying to get there using the carrot, or blackmail, or rewards, or whatever you call it." -- Madison, WI, superintendent Rainwater grasps subtlety in the operating system wars.
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 16 Jun 2010 08:00 JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: > Google search results are as easy as a person going to their browser > and checking. > > So I can give: mymath > > The debate can then be seen in the context of a person's own > experience. Yes, it is remarkable that if you google on a string of letters that is not a proper English word at all, your blog comes up high! If that doesn't show international influence, I don't know what does. Though, it is curious that your blog (which is named "my math", not "mymath") does *not* come up high on a search for "my math". Not even if we put the phrase in quotation marks. Still, no matter. The search term "mymath" confirms your remarkable fame. -- "And yes, for those who think that just maybe I did find a short proof of Fermat's Last Theorem, and THE prime counting function, if I succeed at what I'm working on now world economy as you know it will be gone." -- James Harris branches out.
From: JSH on 16 Jun 2010 10:23
On Jun 16, 5:00 am, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Google search results are as easy as a person going to their browser > > and checking. > > > So I can give: mymath > > > The debate can then be seen in the context of a person's own > > experience. > > Yes, it is remarkable that if you google on a string of letters that is > not a proper English word at all, your blog comes up high! Yeah, I think it's kind of weird. The main point though was the *resistance* which included attacks on Google. For readers wondering what they might face if they found their own mathematical results, they can see how hard it is to get a rational response, and I suggest it's because posters replying to you make up their minds first. Readers can go back through threads over the last few days to read their replies with new perspective. > If that doesn't show international influence, I don't know what does. Well it does seem reasonable that if I can ask readers all over the world to do some Google searches and they get my research then that kind of makes one wonder if it's all just trash, or junk with no meaning. Or even just entertaining, as who is that funny? Ever imagine trying to sell a joke to people in 120+ countries? > Though, it is curious that your blog (which is named "my math", not > "mymath") does *not* come up high on a search for "my math". Not even > if we put the phrase in quotation marks. Think so? > Still, no matter. The search term "mymath" confirms your remarkable > fame. Yeah fame is weird. English speaking countries represent a certain percentage of the world and my analysis has been that insults, resistance, and claims that I'm wrong DO have an impact, as people tend to trust such judgement and many may feel they lack the expertise to evaluate the mathematics. So angry and insulting posters push out the English speaking world!!! But there is the rest of the world. Many of them may never see the insults, mostly getting the math. The insults don't register in the same way. And not seeing their native tongue the behavior of posters is lost on them. An irony of the sci.math phenomena may be that negative sci.math posters had their greatest impact on the US, Great Britain, Australia, and Canada, and the rest of the world mostly never noticed their insulting ways. So the rest of the world is learning mymath, and again, I'm looking to *replace* current mathematical society as its behavior here shows how corrupt it is. And it really is stupid behavior as what sane person would think that hurling insults--primarily in English--would stop mathematical results? May work in primarily English speaking countries. Not so well, say, in China. Or Vietnam. Or even, it seems, in Finland. Or Brazil. Go figure. James Harris |