From: Martin Gregorie on
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:05:47 -0700, Lew wrote:

> Martin Gregorie wrote:
>>> ...please. Like the UK nastiness,  "the england team", I find the
>>> Americanism of using 'of' instead of 'with' very irritating. Arrrr, I
>>> feel better with that off my chest.
>>
>>
> That's an Americanism? I'm American, and I'm not familiar with it.
>
I've always assumed it must be, since I've never seen it used by anybody
other than an American. Its possible its written rather than spoken
though I must admit that would surprise me.


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From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 18-03-2010 03:57, Roedy Green wrote:
> On 18 Mar 2010 01:43:11 GMT, ram(a)zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>> . Possibly Roady was not the only one
>> who was not reading it to the end
>
> My comment still stands whether you read the whole post or not.

Still stand as being irrelevant for the thread.

Arne
From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 18-03-2010 11:32, Mike Schilling wrote:
> Roedy Green wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:55:53 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
>> <mscottschilling(a)hotmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
>> someone who said :
>>> Yes, Roedy, I know what thty are, but they're not relevant to what I
>>> was exploring.
>>
>> You were complaining that generic docs do not cover autoboxing and
>> widening.
>
> Where the hell did that come from?

Out of thin air.

But hey it managed to squeeze 3 Java concepts into one
sentence.

That may actually impress some people. Especially
if they do not know Java.

Arne
From: George Neuner on
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:01:47 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
<martin(a)address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:35:29 -0700, Mike Schilling wrote:
>
>> Thomas Pornin wrote:
>>> Basically, after using Java and generics quite extensively, I simply do
>>> not buy the marketing slogan "generics add powerful compile-time bug
>>> detection". I also note that the same slogan has been used for C++
>>> (with regards to C) and I do not buy it either. In both situation it is
>>> a "nice intent", the kind Hell is paved of.
>>
> ^^ s/of/with/
>
>...please. Like the UK nastiness, "the england team", I find the
>Americanism of using 'of' instead of 'with' very irritating.

Such misconstructions are not really "Americanisms" in the sense that
they are unique to the American dialect of English. They are, rather,
something I like to call "stupidisms" (trademark pending) and, IMO,
are more indicative of poor language education rather than of locale
(though certainly locale and education may have correspondence).

YMMV.

My pet peeve is using "since" for "because". I don't care what the
new dictionaries say ... those two words are not synonyms but merely
have partially coincident meaning.

YM I don't care to hear (unless you agree 8).

>Arrrr, I feel better with that off my chest.

Ditto.
From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 18-03-2010 22:04, George Neuner wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:01:47 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
> <martin(a)address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:35:29 -0700, Mike Schilling wrote:
>>
>>> Thomas Pornin wrote:
>>>> Basically, after using Java and generics quite extensively, I simply do
>>>> not buy the marketing slogan "generics add powerful compile-time bug
>>>> detection". I also note that the same slogan has been used for C++
>>>> (with regards to C) and I do not buy it either. In both situation it is
>>>> a "nice intent", the kind Hell is paved of.
>>>
>> ^^ s/of/with/
>>
>> ...please. Like the UK nastiness, "the england team", I find the
>> Americanism of using 'of' instead of 'with' very irritating.
>
> Such misconstructions are not really "Americanisms" in the sense that
> they are unique to the American dialect of English. They are, rather,
> something I like to call "stupidisms" (trademark pending) and, IMO,
> are more indicative of poor language education rather than of locale
> (though certainly locale and education may have correspondence).
>
> YMMV.

Can you pronounce "R�dgr�d med fl�de" correctly?

Arne