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From: Tom Anderson on 19 Mar 2010 07:14
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Lew wrote:

> Thomas Pornin wrote:
>>>> Basically, after using Java and generics quite extensively, I simply
>>>> do not buy the marketing slogan "generics add powerful compile-time
>>>> bug detection". I also note that the same slogan has been used for
>>>> C++ (with regards to C) and I do not buy it either. In both situation
>>>> it is a "nice intent", the kind Hell is paved of.
>
> Tom Anderson wrote:
>> I believe it is the road to hell that is so paved, rather than hell
>> itself. Hell has parquet floors throughout.
>
> If the road *to* Hell is paved with good intentions (not "intent"), and
> one is traversing that road in the opposite direction, i.e., *away from*
> Hell, is it not still paved with good intentions?

Might not be. If it's a dual carriageway, or there's a one-way system, so
the route back is not the same as the route there, then the paving could
be different in either direction. And based on my experience of places on
Earth similar to hell, i strongly suspect the one-way system.

Hmm. Are there any cases where roads have different pavings on lanes
running in different directions? You could imagine a that a steeply
sloping road in a wet or snowy country might - it could have a grippier
surface on the lane running uphill.

tom

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From: RedGrittyBrick on 19 Mar 2010 07:28
On 19/03/2010 11:14, Tom Anderson wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Lew wrote:
>
>> Thomas Pornin wrote:
>>>>> Basically, after using Java and generics quite extensively, I simply
>>>>> do not buy the marketing slogan "generics add powerful compile-time
>>>>> bug detection". I also note that the same slogan has been used for
>>>>> C++ (with regards to C) and I do not buy it either. In both situation
>>>>> it is a "nice intent", the kind Hell is paved of.
>>
>> Tom Anderson wrote:
>>> I believe it is the road to hell that is so paved, rather than hell
>>> itself. Hell has parquet floors throughout.
>>
>> If the road *to* Hell is paved with good intentions (not "intent"),
>> and one is traversing that road in the opposite direction, i.e., *away
>> from* Hell, is it not still paved with good intentions?
>
> Might not be. If it's a dual carriageway, or there's a one-way system,
> so the route back is not the same as the route there, then the paving
> could be different in either direction. And based on my experience of
> places on Earth similar to hell, i strongly suspect the one-way system.
>
> Hmm. Are there any cases where roads have different pavings on lanes
> running in different directions? You could imagine a that a steeply
> sloping road in a wet or snowy country might - it could have a grippier
> surface on the lane running uphill.
>

It must therefore be Hell's demons that apply the Shellgrip™ on the
approaches (i.e. one side of the road) to the Hangar Lane gyratory†?

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From: Mike Schilling on 19 Mar 2010 10:37
Tom Anderson wrote:
> Hmm. Are there any cases where roads have different pavings on lanes
> running in different directions? You could imagine a that a steeply
> sloping road in a wet or snowy country might - it could have a
> grippier surface on the lane running uphill.

When I was young, I used to walk five miles to school, uphill in both
directions.


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