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From: jmfbahciv on 2 Dec 2006 08:38 In article <b59c2$4570f18a$4fe7357$10170(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> For me hex and hex were the same thing. I worked for year in >> an octal environment. I'd never be able to convert to hex. > >In a different world it was said of one bit god, >the patron saint of cpm, that "For him, assembler >is a high level language." If you want to dabble in machine lanugage and not have to struggle with binary arithmetic, play with IBM's 1620. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Dec 2006 08:41 In article <MPG.1fda22f3561c3ddf989d60(a)news.individual.net>, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >In article <ekpajd$8ss_010(a)s920.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >> In article <MPG.1fd8f934cc0c9057989d50(a)news.individual.net>, >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >> >In article <ekmifn$8ss_002(a)s886.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >> >> In article <MPG.1fd79bef70af1ed3989d3d(a)news.individual.net>, >> >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >> >> >> >It's not a "3" it's "=3F" (the code-point for the apostrophe). I'm >> >> >not sure what I did (it just happened recently). If someone has an >> >> >idea how to fix it I certainly will! >> >> >> >> Did your system get hexed? >> > >> >Apparently! ;-) Maybe it's fixed, dunno. >> >> Well, now I have itch that can't be scratched. Your >> aberration seems to have disappeared. I HATE that >> when it happens. TW always blamed a cosmic ray. After >> haunting the s.p. newsgroup, I learned he was telling >> me a fairy tale ;-). > >Lloyd had it pegged. Somehow the code page got changed. I didn't >go in there and mess with anything so I don't know how it happened. >I hope it wasn't some secret keyboard combination. And you guys want me to shift my tab. Ptui ;-). > It looked fine >when I typed it so I didn't see it happen. Gremlins. Nah. That implies that there are anti-gremlins to put things back the way they were and we know only humans do that work. I have discovered the current list of downloads that AOL thinks I need changes settings. Could that have happened, been discovered, and the setting changed back? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Dec 2006 08:43 In article <3c6ba$4570f1c6$4fe7357$10170(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <MPG.1fd8f934cc0c9057989d50(a)news.individual.net>, >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >> >>>In article <ekmifn$8ss_002(a)s886.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >>> >>>>In article <MPG.1fd79bef70af1ed3989d3d(a)news.individual.net>, >>>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>>><snip> >>>> >>>>>It's not a "3" it's "=3F" (the code-point for the apostrophe). I'm >>>>>not sure what I did (it just happened recently). If someone has an >>>>>idea how to fix it I certainly will! >>>> >>>>Did your system get hexed? >>> >>>Apparently! ;-) Maybe it's fixed, dunno. >> >> >> Well, now I have itch that can't be scratched. Your >> aberration seems to have disappeared. I HATE that >> when it happens. TW always blamed a cosmic ray. After >> haunting the s.p. newsgroup, I learned he was telling >> me a fairy tale ;-). > >Don't let him fool you. He rebooted. Nah, he would have said. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Dec 2006 08:43 In article <MPG.1fda22f3561c3ddf989d60(a)news.individual.net>, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >In article <ekpajd$8ss_010(a)s920.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >> In article <MPG.1fd8f934cc0c9057989d50(a)news.individual.net>, >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >> >In article <ekmifn$8ss_002(a)s886.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >> >> In article <MPG.1fd79bef70af1ed3989d3d(a)news.individual.net>, >> >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >> >> >> >It's not a "3" it's "=3F" (the code-point for the apostrophe). I'm >> >> >not sure what I did (it just happened recently). If someone has an >> >> >idea how to fix it I certainly will! >> >> >> >> Did your system get hexed? >> > >> >Apparently! ;-) Maybe it's fixed, dunno. >> >> Well, now I have itch that can't be scratched. Your >> aberration seems to have disappeared. I HATE that >> when it happens. TW always blamed a cosmic ray. After >> haunting the s.p. newsgroup, I learned he was telling >> me a fairy tale ;-). > >Lloyd had it pegged. Somehow the code page got changed. I didn't >go in there and mess with anything so I don't know how it happened. >I hope it wasn't some secret keyboard combination. It looked fine >when I typed it so I didn't see it happen. Gremlins. [lightbulb lights above emoticon] Do you have a cat? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Dec 2006 08:52
In article <45703FEB.9B77AAFA(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do prefer at least medium level code though. >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes, you seem to have that kind of thinking style. >> >> >> Haven't you ever been curious about what goes on >> >> >> underneath all the layers? >> >> > >> >> >I know what does. >> >> > >> >> >In fact PL/M allows you to invoke certain instructions explicitly such as >> >> >SHL, SHR, ROL and ROR for example. >> >> > >> >> >I do prefer to be able to write the rest of the code in something close to >> >> >English though. >> >> >> >> Then you rely on other people to do the correct thing. This >> >> is the philosophy you've had in this whole thread. >> > >> >Don't be daft. >> >> I'm not. I pretty much know how you think. >> >> >By a similar token you'd use a typewriter instead of a >> >computer. >> >> It depends on the what is to be accomplished. >> >> >There is quite >> >simply no merit in reinventing the wheel every time you >> >want to multiply 2 numbers for example. >> >> There is merit if I'm trying to breed kiddies who are going >> to design the next 5 architectures of CPUs. > >Assembler's unlikely to help them there for sure ! hUH? The architecture is what creates the assembler. The difference between the machine language and the assembler is somebody wrote code that equated mneumonics for certain bit patterns in the machine language. I don't think you know what an assembler is. > > >> >You invariably seem to think it's 'better' to do things the >> >'hard way'. >> >> Of course but for only the first time. After that, the kid >> can use all different ways. >> >> >That's simply backward thinking. >> >> Sigh! No, that's training. > >Pointless training IME. A bit like how learning Latin was once justified because >doctors might need it ! Are you kidding? I took Latin because I was going to get my PhD in biology. > >Like any language when I *had* to use assembler ( for DSP ) I learnt it then - not >before. It was pretty obvious anyway. Just examing a compiler's output gives you >some idea. No, a compiler's machine language output is not the usual way people code using the assembler. There are reasons that compiler-produced code is [emoticon gropes for a word] stilted. /BAH |