From: unsettled on 2 Dec 2006 20:16 Jonathan Kirwan wrote: snip > And unbridled private property ownership passed on only by bloodline > rules or to a designated few, that kind without any limitation at all, > is what leads inevitably to a few controlling things as in El > Salvador. In fact, such examples go back at least as far as Biblical > scripture and, from anthropological papers I've read, a lot further > back. The "money changers" are the phrase used in a biblical sense. > But this actually goes back to the first agrarian societies. When you start discussing primitive societies you immediately bump into the priest and/or ruler class which, in one form or another, existed universally. In various times and places the priest class was overthrown, usually killed, and replaced without any significant overhaul of the power structure. This was remarkably similar to Banana Republic revolutions with their "the more things change the more they stay the same" histories. You'll even find the same sort of historical record for the Mound Builder cultures in the eastern US. This sort of organization seems to come naturally to human beings across cultures. Our egalitarian philosophy appears to not only be unique, but also unnatural. Historical "land ownership" correlates to the membership in the priest class.
From: Ken Smith on 2 Dec 2006 20:19 In article <cc9cc$4570f503$4fe7357$10229(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: > [....] >> It usually is quite a disaster for the populace when that happens. I >> believe that the current path the US is on leads to the US defaulting and >> the economy crashing. Right now it is looking like we are about to tip >> over into a down turn, but I don't see this one as the one where it comes >> home to roost. >> >> Right now oil is traded in US dollars. This requires a lot of the money >> that went overseas to slosh around between economies. The various >> countries that hold US dollars don't straight away try to turn them back >> to the US. This means that if the oil business switches to using the euro >> as the basis, The US will see a large number of dollars suddenly sent >> home. This will drive up inflation and as a result interest rates. >> (Un)fortunately the government is also effected by interest rates. In >> this case the "UN" applies. The higher interest rates could mean that so >> much of the budget is being used just pay interest that the government is >> forced to default. This would leave the US very weak. >> >> China holds a large amount of US dollars. Their government runs at a >> surplus. The US dollars are part of the "investment portfolio" used to >> hold the value for the future. If China decides that the dollar is not as >> good of a risk as some other investment, they may "rebalance" their >> portfolio exchanging the dollars for the other investment. This too would >> send a large wave of dollars to the US. >> >> Without either of these sorts of events, the curve the country is on still >> leads to a bad place. With out a spark, the ignition will happen >> spontaniously after even more fuel has piled up. The sky may not be >> falling but we are in a handbasket and that handbasket is in motion. > >You're right in a lot of ways. > >If you're 100% right then we ought to let the Muslims win >and blame it all on them. LOL 1) I didn't say that the game was lost yet. If there was a sudden rash of sanity in Washington, there is still time to fix the problem. I doubt that there are 10 years to wait however. 2) I don't consider having someone to blame all that important in this case. Back in the days of the cold war, it was suggested that it really wouldn't matter who started world war 3. The only winners would be the cockroaches. There were people in the US pressing for launching against the USSR. Fortunately, it didn't happen. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: unsettled on 2 Dec 2006 20:19 Ken Smith wrote: > In article <2986b$4571a248$49ecf15$14808(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > [.....] > >>Look, there's nothing wrong with being poor. Being poor does >>not prevent anyone from being content and happy. If you had >>been happy poor you still would be. > > > That need not follow. Happy people will learn to do things they enjoy > doing. For some of them, they will discover that someone is willing to > pay them a great deal for doing what they enjoy. Sure, they could win the lottery too.
From: Ken Smith on 2 Dec 2006 20:23 In article <45721411.A104DB7(a)earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: [....] >> Why should I? That would be perhaps helping the other side on the NHS >> debate. If they can't argue that one with out leaving a route to the NHS >> in their own logic, they will be in big trouble. > > > To prove your self? I don't need to do that. > To add validity to your hair brained attitude >about the FCC? I have no "hair brained attitude" about the FCC so no validity needs adding. > To prove that you are a man? How exactly will any of this indicate my gender? You are just being silly now. > Many other reasons, but >you'll blow them all off, as usual. No, I'm straight. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: unsettled on 2 Dec 2006 20:30
Ken Smith wrote: > In article <cc9cc$4570f503$4fe7357$10229(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>Ken Smith wrote: >> > > [....] > >>>It usually is quite a disaster for the populace when that happens. I >>>believe that the current path the US is on leads to the US defaulting and >>>the economy crashing. Right now it is looking like we are about to tip >>>over into a down turn, but I don't see this one as the one where it comes >>>home to roost. >>> >>>Right now oil is traded in US dollars. This requires a lot of the money >>>that went overseas to slosh around between economies. The various >>>countries that hold US dollars don't straight away try to turn them back >>>to the US. This means that if the oil business switches to using the euro >>>as the basis, The US will see a large number of dollars suddenly sent >>>home. This will drive up inflation and as a result interest rates. >>>(Un)fortunately the government is also effected by interest rates. In >>>this case the "UN" applies. The higher interest rates could mean that so >>>much of the budget is being used just pay interest that the government is >>>forced to default. This would leave the US very weak. >>> >>>China holds a large amount of US dollars. Their government runs at a >>>surplus. The US dollars are part of the "investment portfolio" used to >>>hold the value for the future. If China decides that the dollar is not as >>>good of a risk as some other investment, they may "rebalance" their >>>portfolio exchanging the dollars for the other investment. This too would >>>send a large wave of dollars to the US. >>> >>>Without either of these sorts of events, the curve the country is on still >>>leads to a bad place. With out a spark, the ignition will happen >>>spontaniously after even more fuel has piled up. The sky may not be >>>falling but we are in a handbasket and that handbasket is in motion. >> >>You're right in a lot of ways. >> >>If you're 100% right then we ought to let the Muslims win >>and blame it all on them. LOL > > > 1) I didn't say that the game was lost yet. If there was a sudden rash > of sanity in Washington, there is still time to fix the problem. I doubt > that there are 10 years to wait however. > > 2) I don't consider having someone to blame all that important in this > case. Back in the days of the cold war, it was suggested that it really > wouldn't matter who started world war 3. The only winners would be the > cockroaches. There were people in the US pressing for launching against > the USSR. Fortunately, it didn't happen. My dad graphed inflation over several decades. He predicted gloom and doom based on the nonlinearity of the graph. He said that governments kept making the same sorts of economic corrections over the decades. Then came Reagan, breaking the paterns, along with the future continuation of my dad's graphed road to disaster. So what's this war on terror, let alone an escalated one, going to do to your predictions of doom? |