From: MassiveProng on 10 Feb 2007 21:30 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:35:32 +0000, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: > > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> IMO The best processor line Intel introduced was the 8051. It is too bad >> that they didn't think to extend it in the obvious ways. Others have now >> taken up the lead on that. > >The 8051's been going for 25 years now. > >Is there any other processor whose original core has lasted as long as is still >in widespread volume use ? > The 80186 has gotten a lot of use over the years as well.
From: Phil Carmody on 10 Feb 2007 23:55 Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > Ken Smith wrote: > > > IMO The best processor line Intel introduced was the 8051. It is too bad > > that they didn't think to extend it in the obvious ways. Others have now > > taken up the lead on that. > > The 8051's been going for 25 years now. > > Is there any other processor whose original core has lasted as long as is still > in widespread volume use ? Freescale is still shipping bucket-loads of 6800 family and 68000 family devices. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Feb 2007 07:43 In article <eqkujo$2v2$4(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <eqkdrj$8qk_002(a)s889.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>In article <g8tos21pm8ij4rrpevrpiv2ja8soa2c4f0(a)4ax.com>, >> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >[....] >>> You replies to others indicating that you believed their words about >>>Windows being a GUI over top of DOS proves you don't know what you >>>claim you do. >> >>I know how those people do their implementations. I also know how >>some of the individuals work and what they are capable of. I also >>know how mistreated the most talented are. I have probably forgotten >>more about the OS biz than you will ever accumulate. > >It also seems you know how to get someone's goat. You really are being >cruel. :) I think we can trust that he won't go back and reread this >thread. > >The PDP-8E had an interesting sort of OS on it. The OS could have modules >installed on the fly in some cases. You had to always have the hard-disk >module in place but the paper tape one could be removed and replaced as >could a few other custom ones. IIRC they always had to be in field 0. >Application programs could span fields but not the OS. The result was that >some programs ran almost purely in field 1 and acted like they didn't even >know about the fields. Are you talking about OS/8? One of the developers also did a lot of work on my favorite OS. If I were ruler of the world, I'd have a PDP-8 at every elementary school for kiddies to play with. No adults would be allowed. /BAH > > > > > > >
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Feb 2007 07:47 In article <45CE02CA.5050402(a)nospam.com>, Fred Bloggs <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: > >> Since you didn't work at MS, I hardly think you really know much >> about "the source histories" FOR NT, which had nothing to do with the >> version of windows that came before it. NT was the FIRST MS rewrite >> of windows. Remember OS/2? IBM and MS were suppose to collaborate >> and make OS/2 win32 compatible. >> > >Looks like the dipwit found a book in his dumpster diving Well, that's how MS got started, unfortunately. > and now he's a >full-blown world class fantastical expert of all things MS.... I'm considering if it is worth trying to teach him what a "rewrite" means. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Feb 2007 07:54
In article <fe0ss2dh10c4nar1jf4kcuobcifibrokcd(a)4ax.com>, MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >On Sat, 10 Feb 07 12:29:39 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >>We did master/slave implementations in 1971. > > This discussion is about PCs, dipshit. > >> JMF and TW did >>the SMP implementation in 1978 with a FCS (first customer ship) >>in 1979; the production tapes went out in 1980. > > You are off topic of this subthread, again. > >> I have, on my >>wall, the configuration map of a customer who ran with 5 CPUs. > > Oh boy. Not on a PC, which was what this discussion IS about, >dumbass. The day you learn that the computing world is more than a single-user, single-task PC, you will begin to live up to your boasts of prowess. > >>And all this was done before you shat in your first diaper. > > Nope. I was born in the year of the laser. Another date that a >twit like you will have to look up to know or even come close to >remembering. > > You can't even keep a memory long enough to know what a simple >discussion is about. Nothing about MS is simple. The world wishes it were but that was a non-goal. /BAH |