From: MassiveProng on
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:04:38 -0600, "nonsense(a)unsettled.com"
<nonsense(a)unsettled.com> Gave us:

>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> In article <87y7mkflv6.fsf(a)nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
>> Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes:
>>>[SNIP]
>>>
>>>I physically not bear to have any of your garbage included
>>>in this post, lest through searches of archives my name be
>>>associated with your insane ignorant gibbering.
>>>
>>>However, let me just say that I disagree with basically
>>>every sentence in your post. It ranges from meaningless
>>>to irrelevant via liberal splashings of just plain wrong.
>>
>>
>> I know that you have your mind set to interpret everything I write
>> to be 100% wrong. You have stated this over and over ad nauseum.
>>
>> Aren't you getting bored writing the same thing numerous
>> times every day?
>
>Trust me on this, Carmody isn't any more important than
>a Jeff Relf or a George Hammond.
>
Said the kook that has weekly jack-off sessions with that very crowd.
If anyone ranks among that crew, it is you, dipshit.
From: MassiveProng on
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:49:54 +0000 (UTC), kensmith(a)green.rahul.net
(Ken Smith) Gave us:

>There are still some problems that physical checks can solve. There are
>quite a few places in the US that the internet doesn't go to. Needing to
>get a new tire put on my car in one such place, I was happy they would
>take a check.


Like lethargic landlords that have a web page to sell their
"management" service through, but still haven't figured out how to
take payments online. Why these wastoids deserve a new Cadillac every
year I'll never know.

That guy that said shoot all the lawyers was right. The way they
have screwed up society, if we screwed them and even put ourselves in
their place, we wouldn't be doing anything any different than they do.
From: nonsense on
MassiveProng wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:04:38 -0600, "nonsense(a)unsettled.com"
> <nonsense(a)unsettled.com> Gave us:
>
>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <87y7mkflv6.fsf(a)nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
>>> Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes:
>>>>[SNIP]
>>>>
>>>>I physically not bear to have any of your garbage included
>>>>in this post, lest through searches of archives my name be
>>>>associated with your insane ignorant gibbering.
>>>>
>>>>However, let me just say that I disagree with basically
>>>>every sentence in your post. It ranges from meaningless
>>>>to irrelevant via liberal splashings of just plain wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>I know that you have your mind set to interpret everything I write
>>>to be 100% wrong. You have stated this over and over ad nauseum.
>>>
>>>Aren't you getting bored writing the same thing numerous
>>>times every day?
>>
>>Trust me on this, Carmody isn't any more important than
>>a Jeff Relf or a George Hammond.
>>
>
> Said the kook that has weekly jack-off sessions with that very crowd.
> If anyone ranks among that crew, it is you, dipshit.


Have you been drinking or are you on something a bit stronger?


From: Phil Carmody on
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes:
> Phil Carmody wrote:
> > Why anyone is using such pointless backward technology I
> > don't know. We've been internet banking here since the 80s,
> > (more securely even then than how the US or UK does it
> > presently, to boot) and no-one under about 30 has ever even
> > seen a chequebook.
>
> Really ?
>
> I recently(ish) opened a new account here in the UK and automatically got
> traditional cheque and paying in books.

Yes, really. I mentioned the word 'cheque' back in 1993, and
the staff at the bank laughed at me, like I was from some
shitty Burkina Faso village with no water pump. When recounting
this tale to my work colleagues the next day, they laughed at
me like I was from some shitty C�te d'Ivoire village with
no water pump.

Phil
--
"Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank
so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of
/In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <es1hfu$89d$4(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <es16f7$8qk_001(a)s924.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>In article <eruukr$vf3$6(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>In article <erul1i$8qk_008(a)s965.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>In article <erthgg$413$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>[...]
>>>>>Even if I can prove the issue, it will take time for me to do so. There
>>>>>is always some risk in any system that allows paper or electronics to
>>>>>cause money to move.
>>>>
>>>>Exactly. There are even more troublesome areas that I've identified.
>>>>Thus, I'm trying to train my bankers what they need to have in place
>>>>before I succumb to their insistence that I do my banking online.
>>>
>>>I suspect that you have massively overrated the risks from what your bank
>>>wants to do and under estimated the risks from the current situation. I
>>>would simply change banks if I was unhappy about the bank I am using.
>>>There is a local bank or two around here.
>>
>>There is only one local bank left in my area; there are none left in
>>my mother's area.
>
>Well then move. You've said enough bad about this back water you live in
>to convince me you need to move.

The state I live is proud of the fact they consider themselves
Liberal and Progressive. It is usually a field test site of new
ways politicians to dip into your cash reserve.

>
>>>> At the moment, I'm trying to develop methods
>>>>of paying for things without using checks. So far, I haven't been
>>>>able to develop any process that people, such as my parents, will
>>>>be able to use.
>>>
>>>They can use a credit card. If they have the card with the same bank as
>>>they have an account, they can pay the bill by talking to a teller if they
>>>want.
>>
>>My folks have a healthy allergy against credit. I do not like
>>having a credit card connected with the account that contains
>>all the cash I own. That's not a solution (because of the credit
>>card fraud).
>
>You don't have to have it connected. You just walk into the bank and pay
>it by talking to the teller.

It doesn't work that way. Which piece of paper do you fill out
to pay the credit card? Do you include the credit number on
this piece of paper? If you do, now there is a document that will
be scanned into bits that has both your account number and your
card number.

>
>
>>I'm trying to develop a safe way for them to function. With
>>the removal of using checks, there is none that is as
>>convenient as checking so far.
>
>The credit / debit card is likely the best. My mother has been using one
>for years. She keeps a small amount of money in its account. If
>something major comes up, she can use the credit.

The banks that we use don't allow small amounts of money in accounts.
If the balance falls below a minimum, fees are charged. The amounts
charged are enough to buy the milk.


/BAH