From: nonsense on
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> In article <90cd3$45f42b40$4fe74eb$3027(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
> "nonsense(a)unsettled.com" <nonsense(a)unsettled.com> wrote:
>
>>Ken Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <et0nu2$8qk_001(a)s776.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <esuq2s$ds3$4(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>
>>>[....]
>>>
>>>
>>>>>has run on 5V. The selection of 5V can be traced in part to the heater
>>>>>voltage on tubes.
>>>>
>>>>Now think about that over time.
>>>
>>>
>>>Suddenly, you are arguing exactly my case and agreeing with me but putting
>>>the above as a preface to it. This is a very strange thing for you to be
>>>doing. I was the one arguing that a lot of choice are the result of
>>>considerations that appeared trivial or near coin tosses at the time that
>>>ended up having a large effect later. I used the 5V logic case because I
>>>thought it was an obvious and well known example. From the fact that I
>>>got an argument on it, I see that it is less well known than I thought.
>>
>>There are lots of well believed urban legends.
>
>
> You have noted that he stripped my post to make it appear that
> I was agreeing with his factoid. I was talking about something
> completely different.

Happens all the time.

These are the people who when asked "What is pi" will argue to
death that it is 3.14.

# the ratio of the circumference to the diameter of a circle;
approximately equal to 3.14159265358979323846...
# private detective: someone who can be employed as a detective to
collect information
# principal investigator: the scientist in charge of an experiment or
research project
# the 16th letter of the Greek alphabet
# protease inhibitor: an antiviral drug used against HIV; interrupts HIV
replication by binding and blocking HIV protease; often used in
combination with other drugs

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn





From: nonsense on
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> In article <et15r5$h35$2(a)blue.rahul.net>,
> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>
>>In article <et0umt$8qk_018(a)s776.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <esuppf$ds3$3(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>
>>[.....]
>>
>>>>In my house there is a network that links two fast machines. These are
>>>>linked to the internet by a single high speed pathway. At some future
>>>>time, my house may have more than one path to the rest of the world. When
>>>>the city puts in its 802.11 system, it will start to make sense for my
>>>>computer to start to choose between the two paths for my packets. This
>>>>puts routing inside my house.
>>>
>>>Sure. If you have an sense of self-preservation, your router is
>>>going to be seperated from your user machines. All homes
>>>will have their own server which will not be on the same hardware
>>>as their data.
>>
>>I doubt this is where it will end up. The router software will just be
>>another task in the home machine. The code for doing rounting doesn't put
>>the user's data at risk. The firewall is the place where the danger is if
>>at all.
>
>
> That would be a cheap and dangerous configuration.

Fine for a purely hobby machine. Folks are making serious use of
home machines these days, including doing their own finances on
a machine they connect to the internet. Some of them leave that
machine connected 24/7.

I keep a separate machine for such stuff.

From: Ken Smith on
In article <et3a41$8qk_002(a)s948.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>In article <et15r5$h35$2(a)blue.rahul.net>,
> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>In article <et0umt$8qk_018(a)s776.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>In article <esuppf$ds3$3(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>[.....]
>>>>In my house there is a network that links two fast machines. These are
>>>>linked to the internet by a single high speed pathway. At some future
>>>>time, my house may have more than one path to the rest of the world. When
>>>>the city puts in its 802.11 system, it will start to make sense for my
>>>>computer to start to choose between the two paths for my packets. This
>>>>puts routing inside my house.
>>>
>>>Sure. If you have an sense of self-preservation, your router is
>>>going to be seperated from your user machines. All homes
>>>will have their own server which will not be on the same hardware
>>>as their data.
>>
>>I doubt this is where it will end up. The router software will just be
>>another task in the home machine. The code for doing rounting doesn't put
>>the user's data at risk. The firewall is the place where the danger is if
>>at all.
>
>That would be a cheap and dangerous configuration.

There need not be any increase in the risk. Its all a matter of starting
with a reasonable OS and not adding buffer over runs.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <5b9a2$45f55682$4fe7735$10616(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
nonsense(a)unsettled.com <nonsense(a)unsettled.com> wrote:
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> In article <et15r5$h35$2(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <et0umt$8qk_018(a)s776.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <esuppf$ds3$3(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>
>>>[.....]
>>>
>>>>>In my house there is a network that links two fast machines. These are
>>>>>linked to the internet by a single high speed pathway. At some future
>>>>>time, my house may have more than one path to the rest of the world. When
>>>>>the city puts in its 802.11 system, it will start to make sense for my
>>>>>computer to start to choose between the two paths for my packets. This
>>>>>puts routing inside my house.
>>>>
>>>>Sure. If you have an sense of self-preservation, your router is
>>>>going to be seperated from your user machines. All homes
>>>>will have their own server which will not be on the same hardware
>>>>as their data.
>>>
>>>I doubt this is where it will end up. The router software will just be
>>>another task in the home machine. The code for doing rounting doesn't put
>>>the user's data at risk. The firewall is the place where the danger is if
>>>at all.
>>
>>
>> That would be a cheap and dangerous configuration.
>
>Fine for a purely hobby machine. Folks are making serious use of
>home machines these days, including doing their own finances on
>a machine they connect to the internet. Some of them leave that
>machine connected 24/7.
>
>I keep a separate machine for such stuff.

Keeping important information on a Windows machine puts it at risk.
Remember that very strange virus that modulated the data onto the horz.
rate of the video. Even not being connected to the network is not enough.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <45F4CF7A.BD6428AD(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
[....]
>So Mr Expert. Why isn't TTL made on a 40 Volt process ?

Thats obvious. Its so there is a market for MOSFET drivers. I still want
a PIC made with Supertex's HV CMOS.



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